From when my first brug opened, I started to see very,very small thin black bugs that are not spider mites or aphids. I think they are thrip. They seem to eat the leaves and now I am seeing them on my iris blooms.
What would you suggest for getting rid of them. I don't want them to attach my daylilies! or brugs or iris either!
I do have the bayers rose and flower 2 in 1. Would that work to get rid of them?
Thrip and the damage they do...help!
I do not know the answer, picturelady, but I hope you find it sooner, rather than later!!!! SLike
The Bayer systemic will work for thrips.
There are pictures of thrips on this page of images from Google. http://images.google.com/images?q=Thrip&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Avid is registered for use on thrips. Pyrethrum will kill them too, but might cause spots on your flowers.
Picturelady, could you send a photo of your damaged brug leaves so we could see the kind of damage they do?? I have or had something eating only new leafs and I never saw the actual bug, but the alcohol/water, liquid soap did the trick. In fact it is odd looking at the plant, because the plant has grown considerably since the bugs and you can see that they only did damage in one layer of leafs. If you haven't tried the alcohol, maybe it would kill the thrips... SLine
I am on the run this morning but will photograph the leaves...actually although the older leaves are chewed from the edges the newer ones are OK. I did put on the Bayers systemic a few days ago.
Mostly it was that I saw these tiny, smaller than the comma I just made...on the white flowers and now am also seeing them on my new iris. They are really, really small...and thin...but I can see them moving around!
Thrips don't "chew" the leaf and leave holes, thrips make the leaf look either brown or silver where they suck the juice out of the plant. On the flower, thrips damage looks like white streaks where all the color is gone. They cause the leaf and flower to become deformed and they are also a major vector for viruses in plants.
If you have actual holes in the leaf, it might be flea beetles or some other very small leaf eating bug.
I'm pretty sure this is thrip damage
Yucky... aint it?!
Yes, that's what thrips damage looks like. They don't chew the leaf, they suck the juices out of the leaves/flowers which leaves the streaks.
Here is a picture of severe thrips damage. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/orn/thrips/thrips_damage.gif&imgrefurl=http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/orn/thrips/thrips_damage.htm&h=263&w=350&sz=79&tbnid=MDW5-hyRt-AJ:&tbnh=87&tbnw=115&start=30&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthrips%2Bdamage%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN
edited to add another link of thrips on lettuce leaves. http://ag.arizona.edu/crops/vegetables/insects/advisories/2002/images/vegadv112702fig2.jpg
This message was edited Apr 29, 2004 12:38 PM
I used to get thrips on my gladiolas. They would totally ruin the plant and the bloom was so ugly.
Susie, your first link is blank.
edited to say Margie, snails and slugs just love to eat brugs! Cucumber beetles also! I found my first cucumber beetle of the season, yesterday on a rose. I squished that little sucker dead.
This message was edited Apr 29, 2004 11:22 AM
Wow, PoppySue, that the first time I have seen anything like that. Hope you get it solved.
Poppysue's Zoo! Think I've had just about every plant eating critter that god has created. Look what the moles did...
That looks like it would have been a gorgeous Daylily!
all those shreds were a daylily, Sue???
It's 'Making Friends'. It's spose to look like this...
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/17996/index.html
That is so sweet looking!
Oh that is a beauty!! Im sorry they got to it.
Ya know, there are sometimes I wish the insects were effected by the "poison" of brugs, and just KNEW to stay away from them. That sure would make it easier.
Bumping this up so Mini can see it.
Calalily posted: Bumping this up so Mini can see it.
What does that mean and what does 'bump' mean, also DH??? Darling Hubby, Dumb Hubby???????
Sherry, I bumped it up(brought it up to the top of the forum) so Minischnuz could see it since I think the damage on her leaves in another post might be thrips and she could follow some of the links for comparison.
DH--Dear Hubby, Dumb Hubby, take your pick, lol
Gee, I always thought it was Darling Husband but tonight I do believe it really means Douass Husband.
LOL Kell!!!
Poppy....please tell me HOW TO GET RID OF MOLES!!! Ugh...I just hate them! I have dead spots in the lawn and I know it was caused by moles. Last spring, DH dug up a huge garden to line it with wire to keep them out. They have eaten more than 200 hyacinth bulbs. I find them dead in the pool in the spring time....I guess they just get too close and fall in or want something to drink....who knows! I'm just happy they are dead. And last Saturday, we had the back door open and the cat came carrying one in that was alive! I almost died! They look like a huge rat without the tail! Eeeeeewwwww
Calalily posted: I bumped it up(brought it up to the top of the forum)
How is that done??? Until your post, you will never believe what I thought it meant - I thought it meant 'to change the subject'. I'm glad I finally know, thanks!!! SLike
Sherry...all you have to do is post something on a thread and it will be brought up to the top of the forum !!
Oh Sue, that was so pretty! Your pictures are always a delight to look at. I remember when I was young in NJ, my father would put traps out for them. We could see the tunnels from above ground and he would stick them down in the tunnel. I can't remember how they worked.
Brinda, after eating 200 hyacinth bulbs, the poor mole probably rolled right into the pool, unable to stop with such a big belly!
Back to the subject of thrips. Don't they also leave a tiny black "dropping" for lack of a better word? I have those and spider mites right now. I'm waiting for it to dry a little here (we have had non-stop rainy weather for weeks now, which is unheard of for this part of the country!), then I'm biting the bullet and dispensing with my organic approach to dose all the brugs with the Bayer systemic. I just have too many of these to keep removing the little buggers by hand!!! They look awful right now between the wind damage and the bugs, but the cuttings are loaded with buds and the seedlings are growing like mad!
Yes, Thrips like to leave teeny "droppings".
Brinda, moles are little and have no eyes and big huge weird front paws. Sounds like you have pocket gophers, they are big and look like a rat with a short tail and eat plant roots and plants.
Calalily posted: Sounds like you have pocket gophers, they are big and look like a rat with a short tail and eat plant roots and plants.
Sounds like shrews to me, they live in mole holes. They are awful, my Golden girl brings them to me - ALIVE, ugh!!!! SLike
After reading that thrip leave droppings behind...I have not seen any droppings, so maybe they are something else after all !
Susie...I don't have a clue what they are...but I sure do hate them. They ruin the lawn and they especially love the hyacinth and daffie bulbs. I'm so tired of fighting them. But I do know that I feel lucky....I'm not looking out at any gators! Oh girl....I feel for you...I'd be petrified! LOL
Hey Brinda, I'll send a gator to eat your moles if you want! I bet there are some baby ones out there that would love a water garden in OK, course you'd have to bring it inside in the winter and babysit it!
Ha Susie....I'm not a good babysitter! That's ok...I'll figure out another way to get rid of these moles! Eeeeewww, I just cringe at the thought of a gator! And can't get the pic of the gator's mating out of my head....LOL
brinda.. thats weird that the gophers are eating the hyacinth bulbs and daffs... those are highly poisonious maybe thats why they are rolling over dead in the pool.. i feel ur pain with the gophers.. my maamaa kitty bring 3 to her kitties every morning.. well i wont let her in with them so she ends up eatting all three of them herself.. yesterday the gopher still had food in its "pockets" ...yuck!!! they are ugly critters arent they.. i founf a huge gopher hole in my raised bulb bed two days ago... it took my breath away because its lined with chicken wire... i felt my heart stop when i saw it!!! i could have cried!!! turns out the chicken wire i lines it with the holes are too big making the wire use-less... sigh so today i am building another bed double lining to triple lining it with chicken wire then lava gravel then maybe even wood, and moving all my perinnials out of the bulb bed and into the new one.. i also heard used kitty litter sprinkled on the dirt around the flowers keep them at bay , the smell of a preditors urine... so far they have stayed away for the past two days... its gross sounding i know but i cant risk losing all those bulbs and flowers... sigh.. our one neighbor has finnaly just had it with the gophers in his grass and now floods the holes out till the gopher comes running... then he shoots them with his shotgun... i would love to do that only there would be no flowers left from the shotgun blast...
WOW, that IS being angry!
I've not had gophers yet, but the moles sometimes visit. I sneak up on them and stand there with my pitchfork in hand and wait for the ground to move. As soon as it does, they are dead. Some people put a shovel behind the mound and they can't run back and then another shovel can dig them out. How do gophers move? Do they have tunnels or what?
Oh God Brugie. That is terrible. Though I remember my Dad killing some rodent that tunneled unground in Rumson. He would go nuts when he would see the tunnels all over his perfect lawn.
Kell, they ruin a lawn in no time and all the stuff they sell to get rid of them, doesn't work, at least for me.
LOL Brugie....I just can't stop laughing thinking about you standing there with a pitchfork!!! I wish you would come to Yukon and get all the little moles destroying my yard! I am just so astonished at the mess they have made in the last couple of days! I've been gone for 2 days and come home to find a gazillion tunnels all over our beautiful lawn. I even saw a few tunnels around the brugs that I put in the ground. Great....will they bother the brugs also??? I would have a fit if they did!
Someone, somewhere must have a good remedy for them! They have played havoc around here for the past 4 or 5 years and I'm getting sick of them! Last year DH dug up a flower bed around the front porch and lined it with wire (screen door wire) so we could have some bulbs.....well, guess what? Yep....they crawled over the paver landscaping and got in the bed! I hate them.....I almost think I'd rather deal with Susie's gator....at least I could see him! LOL
Wanna hear an 'almost funny story'? A couple of weeks ago I had the back door open running in and out, moving plants and planting things. After about 3 hours I had run in the house to use the restroom and when I came out and walked through the den the cat had a mole in her mouth that she had caught outside! Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww! I can't stand those things! LOL So of course, I was screaming at DH to get it...and he did! Whew....I was so happy it ended without a problem. Then...guess what? Oh no....about 4 hours later DH had come in from mowing and grabbed a glass of ice water and sat down on the couch to cruise the channels. I came in and sat down to chat with him for a bit. Then he noticed one of the teacup poodles being interested in something under one of the chairs in the den. Oooooo, he went over to move the chair and I think he screamed louder than I did! LOL Yep....another mole...but this one wasn't hurt! I don't know where the mole came from, or even how long it had been in the house! I would like to think that it had made it's way in that afternoon. I'm now having nightmares of getting up in the night and stepping on one of those nasty long-nosed critters!
We had a 3-legged German Shorthair Pointer up until a month ago. Can you believe I cursed this monster dog for years and now that he is gone the mole population has increased beyond anyone's belief??? Someone please help...I need a sure fire way of getting rid of these things before they destroy the whole lawn!
You will have to look close....I'm not sure you can see the tunnels they have dug today, but I'll post it anyway. This part of the lawn was lush and beautiful 2 weeks ago!
Someone suggested using Castor Oil in a sprayer and spraying the perimeter of your lawn. I guess that might work if they weren't already inside and doing damage. I'm interested in hearing a good way to get rid of them too.