Well the people from the lab that is testing my plants called me today. They are sending the plants and results on to a plant pathologist for further testing.
The local agent that I took the plants to for shipping has information on the results for me. It is being mailed to me and once I get it and read the results I will post here and anyone who got plants from me that may have a problem with them can then email me about it.
I will say that neither of the plants that I sent for testing (one of them being pink favorite)came back positive for fusarium. They were tested for it and that word was written all over the paperwork so the techs in the lab knew to look specifically for fusrium.
brug test results
Thanks for the update David, will be glad when you can tell us more.
Thanks for the update, Davis. We will be crossing our fingers that all is well with your plants.
I got some paperwork on my brugs today. I found out the name of the infection several days ago but have been doing some online reading aobut it.
The info that my extension agent sent me has been passed on to a plant pathologist for further study and then is hould get more results.
As I mentioned in another thread,neither of the samples I sent in tested positive for fusarium,but both tested positive for an infection called phoma species or stem spot.
All I can suggest is that anyone interested in learning more about it,you'll have to do some online reading just as I am.
Wow! Thanks David! Im gonna do some searching. Thanks for keeping us updated!
David, that is good to know. So you do not haave the sb thing at all! Great news!
Thanks for the info, David. Is it good news for you? I hope so! I could find very little last night on stem spot/phoma species. If you run across a website with some good information, would you please provide us with a link? Thank you!
Having them tested postive for Phoma does not mean, that it is not SB. The problem is, fungicides to help against Phoma failed to help in my plants.
Monika said: "Having them tested postive for Phoma does not mean, that it is not SB. The problem is, fungicides to help against Phoma failed to help in my plants."
Wouldn't that mean, Monika, that your plants had sb, and the fungicide was ineffective because they did not have phoma?
Gee David, you want us to do some work?? LOL.
How is your weather? Moving your brugs outside yet?
Dr. Preissel mentioned in his book Phoma and Verticillium as a possible cause of SB! He also says, that the research is not finished yet! It is exactly the same, what I have keep writing all the time!!! It can be found on page 98!!!
For that reason, I may say that I DONT have SB!!!
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Looking through some web sites and Phoma is listed as a root rot.
Brown root rot
Phoma sclerotioides G. Preuss ex Sacc.
= Plenodomus meliloti Dearn & G. B. Sanford
Crown and root rot complex
Fusarium acuminatum Ellis & Everh.
Gibberella acuminata Wollenweb. [teleomorph]
F. avenaceum (Fr.: Fr.) Sacc.
G. avenacea R.J. Cook [teleomorph]
F. equiseti (Corda) Sacc
F. oxysporum Schlectend.: Fr.
F. sambucinum Fuckel
F. solani (Mart.) Sacc.
Nectria haematococca Berk. & Broome [teleomorph]
Fusarium spp.
Phoma medicaginis Malbr. & Roum. in Roum.
Pythium spp.
Rhizoctonia solani Kühn
Thanatephorus cucumeris (A.B. Frank) Donk
I was wondering what did they test on your plant the leaf or the stem?
Thank you, David. We're all sorry you have to go through all this. However, the information you bring forth is invaluable to all of us. we applaud you.
Now with Davids, Monikas, and Dr. Preissels help, we all are made aware that there are other diseases to research when it comes to our brugs. Poor David learned the hard way when, in a rush for understanding, the term SB was loosely applied. Now we learn of Phoma, which is not a fusarium, which in Dr. Preissels research is being looked at as a possible contributor of SB.
I hope we all follow their example and read up on Phoma and don't rush to an SB judgement. It's a must we keep our eyes open to the health of our brugs. We all love growing our beautiful brugs but we apparently must be academically sound also.
Like being back in school again, huh? lol
I'm just going to post some links to info thta I have found here.http://www.gov.mb.ca/agriculture/crops/diseases/fac29s00.html
there is a lot more but just too many to put links to here.
David, did the lab give you any special instructions on control?
Sue, I asked about a cure or preventative for this stuff and they just told me that they didn't know much about it and that's why they sent the info on to a plant pathologist for further study.
At the moment I don't have any other brugs showing signs of infection or spots or anything like that.
bottom line, if a brug gets a deadly fungus it's gonna croak. no matter which fungus it is. I'm for letting Darwin sort them out.
Good for you David! I sure hope it stays that way! This is the year you are going to start hybridizing isn't it? You will have great fun with that.
I'm glad that your crop of brugs is looking good and that you have no more signs of the disease. Hope you have many beautiful brugs and lots of great pods on your plants this summer. We appreciate what you have done to try and find out what is going on with the plants involved. Maybe the next report will tell the story. Hoping is good, isn't it??
I feel guilty with you doing all the work, David lol
Thanks for all the new info!!
p.s. Forgot to say I'm glad you were able to isolate this and the rest of your brugs are looking healthy!!!
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Monika stated Having them tested postive for Phoma does not mean, that it is not SB. The problem is, fungicides to help against Phoma failed to help in my plants.
I think that SB is a type of Phoma and that means that the fungicides against Phoma would not help.
Just my opinion after reading the links that David provided.
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Thank you David for the info and the links you provided. Best of luck to you with your brugs.
I had never heard of this fungus till you mentioned it David. Sure hope the pathologist gives you some information about it.
Thanks David. I appreciate you keeping us updated.
Thanks for the info David. Glad it hasn't spread to your other plants
We really do appreciate you updating us David. Thank you for all your effort in finding out the info that you did.
So glad to hear you're safe David!
Vi,
I don't think i'm out of the woods yet!! This phoma stuff sounds just as bad as fusarium and I still need for my outdoor brugs to get up and grow so I can keep an eye on them for possible signs of disease.
Aw sweetie, I just wish you the very best, for all you've done for everyone else, you sure deserve it!
I think I've learned not to stress mine out by trying to grow out late cuttings, or keep them in water like Monika does.
I think I'll let one wayward branch or shoot grow just for summer harvesting, I hate these scary diseases!