Jeff, I have to look up for the P. incarnata pictures. I should have it by tomorrow.
Jeff, for you
Here is Incense from Logees', it definitely is not a hardy one, if I didn't bring inside, I wouldn't have it.
Do you think it is a deeper purple than Incarnata?
P. incarnata has a different color. P. x incense resembles much its parent P. cinncinata.
So who is Jeff? He disappeared, know this isn't the Passion Flw. forum, but it started here and Jeff wanted to know which one this was.
Oh Jeff....
Monika, you were to get back with Incarnata pic.
I need to get one of these. The ones here are not so frilly!
Passiflora incarnata
That color seems lighter than the one Jeff put on of his? My Incense blooms measure 4"-4-1/2".
Guess we are carrying on without Jeff....
Speak up Kell, if you want one.
Not Kell, but I would love one. Do you have cuttings?
Heya's. I'm sorry I haven't replied yet, I didn't see this thread. I'm still new to all this kind of thread posting, Bob called and told me about this 1. Thank you and I'm sorry for the delayed response. If you have any tips that could help me not overlook this in the future, please throw them at me;).
Hibiscus. That Passiflora is a much deeper purple than my "incarnata". I had incense last summer, I just didn't know what it was exactly. Does incense put out fruit? My incarnata puts out fruit like crazy, if that helps in determining what species this is.
Monika. That pic you show as incarnata is very pale and lacking the unique details of mine.
Mine looks identicle to every picture of "May pops" or P. Incarnata that I've been able to find all over the web. I've looked at soo many sites about this flower too. I was wanting it for medical reasons, evidently incarnata has been used for ever to help relieve muscle spasms or as a relaxing tea.
Since I'm a paraplegic, I'm always looking for plants like this in the hopes it can replace some perscription drugs I have to take for spasms. LOL Its not fair! I can't make my legs move but when they decide they want to push or kick around well, they win everytime! LOL Don't feel sorry for me and please don't make any assumptions when it comes to my situation. If you have a question about ANYTHING reguarding parapledgia, please feel free to ask. You can offend or embarrass me I promise.
Sorry, I'm getting way off base again and I don't want another marathon post from me. I don't mean to do that, I just get excited about this stuff and nobody around here knows enough to comprehend what we're talking about.
Below is a picture of mine w/ fruit. Please set me strait;)
Thanks, Jeff
OK... I'm a lil colorblind and my wife just got home to tell me the difference we see between your incense and my incarnata.
Your incense is more of a purple and my incarnata is a blueish flower w/ a purple ring around the inside.
That's what we now see anyhow. Here is another picture.
I thought I saw someone mention wanting my colored species. Let me know and I'll pot 1 up as soon as they come up in the garden, yard or anywhere else they choose.lol
Dave has a great feature here to remind us of which threads we want to watch or that we have replied to. Go to the top of the thread, then click "Watch this thread" It'll show up whenever you logon if someone has posted something new.
Oh, Jeff, me me me. I would love a start. PLMK what you would want as a trade.
Linda
NO PLEASE DON'T GO ON WITH OUT ME;). I found my way here finally and I won't disapear I promise.
I don't know if any of you have been following our expiraments w/ rooting cuts of Passiflora or not, it's 1 tuff plant to propagate in this manor I'm told. Clare was kind enough to send me several different species of Passiflora and Brugs so we could all try rooting them.
http://davesgarden.com/t/412695/
That's the thread with our expiraments, please check it out and join in if you can.
Thank You all for your help!
JD aka Jeff
Jeff, P. x incense is very fragrant in comparism to P. incarnata. P. incarnata is a native plant of the US. P. x incense is a hybrid of P. cinncinate x P. incarnata and was bred in a Florida Research center, if I remember correctly.
Passiflora is known as a drug plant. You can buy it here in drug stores in form of extracts or drug (herbs) for tea. It is also used when you have sleeping problems. It is a mild muscle relaxans. You have to drink the Passiflora tea for at least four weeks, before you are able to notice if it helps or not. It would be worth a try. I know, how much you are suffering from these spasms. A friend of my family had it.
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What interesting information. I wonder if this tea can be bought in the states. Has anyone seen it here?
Susie is a passion flower nut also. She had or still has quite a variety.
Jeff, your picture appears to have pale blue or lavender petals and according to Kartuz, it should have white petals. Maybe the problem in identifying is due to the picture. Does yours have white petals? OR....Maybe what you have is a new hybrid that grew from seed. Here is what Kartuz says about it:
P. INCARNATA “Maypop”, “Hardy Passionflower”, native to S.E. United States - Sweetly scented white flowers with lilac crown. Edible green or yellow fruit. This is the hardiest of all passionflowers, and can survive outdoors as far north as S. Mass. with winter protection. It will die down to the ground in the fall, reappear in spring, and grow vigorously during summer.
Since I know nothing about passifloras other than I like them and will grow them whenever I can, I just thought I'd add this for the heck of it.
I was watching that thread about TropicalMan and Clare from Ca. until it got up into 200+ posts then I don't go in there. Clare seems to be a whiz at starting these. I have about 3 Incense in perlite/jar/plastic. Think they are rooted, will have to check.
Jeff: Have a very dear friend had polio at 20. Legs have been paralized ever since, but now she is getting polio symptoms back and says her legs ache, even tho' they are completely with no feeling otherwise. Think it might be worth looking into about the Passiflora tea, might help you.
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Well I definately have P. Incarnata. I found it growing wild on the Oklahoma/Texas border where the soil is sandy and rocky. It is the only native Passiflora in N. America that I know of. The petals behind the flower are whitish with a lavender hue. It grows lime sized green fruit that is very tart at 1st taste then the after taste is very sweet. I can't see anyway to use the fruit for anything but collectiong seeds. There is just a little pulp like sac around each seed, its 90% solid seed and the rest is the pulp like stuff. The seeds are rock solid. I tried to speed up germination 1 year by soaking and trying to scratch through the seed coat. NO WAY! I took coarse sand paper and small files to the seeds only to see I didn't put a dent in them. I've never seen anything like it. Now I'm very curious as to what the whiter flower above is becuase it's not P.Incarnata imo. I really don't think mine is a hybrid, it's seedlings have no variation from the original mother plants. It's been my experience w/ misc. hybrids that the F1 seedlings always vary quite a bit or atleast show SOME signs of being different. I've yet to see any and I know there aren't any other Incarnata's in the area to polleninate and hybridize with. Nobody has ever seen them before except for people that moved here from places like Florida or S.Texas where I've been told they are common wild flowers. I guess it's 1 more of "The things that make you go HMMMMMMMMMM".LOL
Thanks for your help and patients. I gotta stop now before I create yet another marathon post.
Sometimes our monitors don't show the pictures the same as they show on another set up. I tried this passiflora, had three rooted cuttings, and it didn't grow well for me. I decided that I'd stick to brugmansia instead. Much better luck and then I heard that the passiflora Incarnata would send out lots of runners and it was hard to contain. Decided I was lucky that it didn't make it. Catch ya on the Vines and Climbers forum.
I have those growing in my lower veggie garden every year. I can remember as a child I had a great uncle who used to pull the vines by tarailer loads and sold them to someone but I don't know who but seems like he said something about making medicines. I'm not sure. I was so small at that time but I remember going out in the fields and helping pull the maypop vines. LOL
My grandmother was Cherokee. She made tea from the passifloras to help us sleep. You can use Edulus or Incarnata, but NOT caerulea as it is poisonous. She used either 3 or 5 leaves steeped in a cup of water with honey and lemon for taste(passiflora tea is nasty stuff but it sure gives a good nights sleep when you're jittery)
LOL, Hibiscus! You give me way too much credit;-) I'm not good at all at rooting Passifloras, but we just had a breakthrough. Tropicman, JD, and I figured out that there is a reason that these vines root better in the spring and summer than the fall and winter: they need to be in a growth mode! That thread is super long now. LOL! I wonder if we should start a new one?
I currently have a pretty bad flu and am drinking lots of tea. I have Celestial Seasonings Herb Tea in front of me, and one of the ingredients is "natural passionfruit flavor." I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I know it's probably not actual Passionflower leaves. Celestial Seasonings do have a variety of medicinal type teas for tension, sleeplessness, etc.
I wonder if the flowers taste better than the leaves?
WOW, what a coincidence Clare!
wonder what it's gunna do if I put the passiflora in chamomile..
Should calm its' nerves, maybe even put it to sleep. Not permanently I hope.
I know, Kell! I'm trying to drink more herbal teas these days and less coffee. I'm sure there are a lot of wonderful medicinal plants that I'm growing, but if I started making teas out of the things in my garden, I'd probably accidentally kill myself.
CC, just make sure it isn't Caerulea 'cause Calalily says that one is poisonous!
I don't have P. Caerulea but here's P. Incense:
I love Incense. It smells nice and is very showy. Smells even better than normal when side by side with a corkscrew vine cluster of flowers.
Here is my incarnata. It fruited like crazy last summer.
Howdies.
That's it rylaff! My P. Icanrnata is eggzactly like that! I wonder which 1 monika has? Anyone know or have a guess.
Awesome pictures, Shirley and Rylaff. Rylaff, I love the stone face on the ground.
Jeff, Monika says hers is P. Incarnata also. I bet that differing environmental conditions can affect the color of the flower and cause it to appear differently than some others.
Brugie, I love that combo together!
Thanks. It was awesome to see in person and the smell of the two was great. I tried to do the same thing the next year, but luck wasn't with me.