Euphorbia (Euphorbia handiensis)

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

Euphorbia
Euphorbia handiensis


Huntington GArdens, Pasadena CAlifornia cold frame

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Lawrence, KS

Euphorbia handiensis.

This Plant was written up in the CSSA Journel, Vol 66 No.1, Page 16.

It does not look like your plant.

Euphorbia handiensis looks like this.
It will live very well in Clay or Oil Dry, which is basicly the same thing. It is from Southern Marocco. It hates High Humidity and moisture. I have to grow mine inside on a window ledge and only water it about 2 times a month or less.

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Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

Not my plant... it belongs to the Huntington Botanical gardens and is a very old plant (40 years or more, I think)... but I will not vouch for their ability to identify anything, as they often make such errors. You can always take up the beef with them and see what they say.

Lawrence, KS

As I do not know any one at the Huntington Botanical gardens, I put a post on Cacti_etc, There should be a few Educated people on there who can come up with the correct ID's and Proof ? if possible.

Ewing, KY(Zone 6a)

Palmbob, I don't think Shellback really has a beef (as you call it) to pick but is just stating her thoughts. Maybe since you entered the photo and since I believe several others of theirs have been incorrect you might want to check with them? It could also be the placement of the markers I know I ran into that at a recent place, the marker was behind the plant and not in front where I was taking the photos from. If you can't decide please post it in the id forum or the cactus forum. Please let me know what you decide. Thanks

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

Their greenhouse has not been open in nearly a year of visits from me, so it may take a while.

Ewing, KY(Zone 6a)

Thanks palmbob. I had an email from a member that submitted these photos. http://www.euphorbia.eu/ The link I discovered will not take you right to the photos you have to Look at Send your own pictures A contribution from Emilio Begine from Belgium: They sure look the same to me. I'm not convinced your photo is wrong. Shellback we appreciate your input. You stated you posted a thread in the cactus forum. I couldn't find anything but I might have missed it my computer is on the fritz. Look at the photos and let me know what you decide. Thanks

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Mystic,
I think Shellback was referring to "Cacti_etc".
Which I think is a email subsciption list type of forum through email responses only.
http://www.labs.agilent.com/bot/cactus_home

This message was edited Jul 17, 2007 7:59 PM

Ewing, KY(Zone 6a)

Thanks Xenomorf , I went through some of them but I agree couldn't find anything. Hopefully they will find out something. You don't have any thoughts on this one?

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Although I don't have much experience with this plant and I don't have any descriptions of it, when I look at the google images
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&q=Euphorbia+handiensis&btnG=Search+Images
I see two different growth pattern formations. One being a clumping type of formation and one being a small tree formation with a trunk. Palmbob's photo looks like it has a tree-like/columnar formation to it. Shellback's is still young.

The thorns seem to match palmbob's photo (2 thorns per areole), Palmbob's photo is of an older plant and may have lost some of it's thorns, if we only had a closer view of palmbob's thorns.
I noticed on this photo here:
http://www.biologie.uni-regensburg.de/Botanik/Schoenfelder/kanaren/images/Euphorbia_handiensis_Detail.jpg
There are two thorns coming from each areole, and with Shellback's photo, there is only one thorn per areole which would indicate to me Shellback's might be a different plant.

Aarschot, Belgium(Zone 3a)

Xenomorf, the photo (HYPERLINK@www.biologie.uni-regensburg.de] is a good one, and the one from Huntington Gardens made by Palmbob is probably from a real handiensis. Buth that one is growing to fast in a greenhouse I suppose. Same problem with most canariensis in our collections. You have to know that on the site handiensis grows there is real less rainfall.

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Aarschot, Belgium(Zone 3a)

Here a closer vieuw of a plant with flowers.

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Aarschot, Belgium(Zone 3a)

And an other one.

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Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Hoyamoyen,
Yes, I can see the thorns in your photos. They are in sets of two instead of one.

Lawrence, KS

My apolliges to you Palmbob.
It seems you are correct and I was mislead by the CSSA Journal. I got replys from Ralf (sp) in the UK valuched for you and Mr Emilio Begine in BE. sent me some photos of E. ferox and some other links. So I guess my plant is Euphorbia ferox.

Mystery solve. I have relabeled my plant.

Thanks for your time.


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