Now that I'm hooked on Hoya, I'd like to learn more about the specific requirements and I.D.ing of the various types. Pictures are important too! I couldn't find anything in the Garden Bookworm and not much at other sites. So far I gather that K. Kloppenburg and A. Wayman are good authorities and have written a number of books. Christine M. Burton is recommended by some but I can't locate her one book "Hoyas I Know and Love". Presently, I'm getting all my info from you kind souls at DG but you'll probably get tired of all my questions. Any recommendations out there?
Any Recommendations for Books on Hoya?
I'll be eagerly awaiting this recommendation also. I'd be in the market for the best Hoya book available. Thanks for bringing it up.
Kloopenburg has one on disk, his book is out of print. Rainbow gardens may have some from Australia left. Perhaps you can do a search on Google. I did one on Pelagonium and came up with a few. I don't believe that you will find it all in one book. Succulents 1 and 2 The Illustrated Dictionary has a few listed in each book with pictures. Some black and white drawing are great.
Catalogues may help if there are any left. Rainbow Gardens used to sell Hoya. Join the Hoya Society. I can locate that address for you. Anything by David Liddle is great. Get Ted Greens catalogue, i think you can download it. I try and find the address again. His catalogue at least has some colored pictures. Glasshouse Works, may sell Kloopenburgs disk in the future, we are all pitching in to make this arrangement.
The books from Dale Kloppenburg "Hoya Basics" and "The Hoya Handbook" and translations from Schlechter are still available at Rainbow Gardens Bookshop at http://www.rainbowgardensbookshop.com/hoya.html.
Like Norma said above, "Succulents I & II, The Illustrated Dictionary" also have Hoya pictures in it (more in II) but not much more than that.
Another very "technical" (and expensive) book is "Illustrated Handbook of Succulent Plants: Asclepiadaceae" it has some Hoya pics and cultural info in it. Careful though, it might get you hooked on other Asclepiadaceae LOL.
C. Burton's Book is not on the market yet and who knows when it ever will be (she never talks about it).
Conclusion:
Kloppenburg's "The Hoya Handbook" is, at this time, the best one around. It is expensive, many pages are stretched, is not well structured and contains mistakes but is still informative.
Milan
Milan, thank you for your information and recommendations. Rainbow Gardens http://www.rainbowgardensbookshop.com/hoya.html does list both Hoya books "Hoya Basics" at $9.95 and "The Hoya Handbook" at $49.95. However, they are on a "mini vacation" until March 3 so I'll just have to be patient. Amazon.com has the other book at varying $$ from $99.99 - $119. Guess I'll do some more searching for that one -- I know that I just won't be satisfied with just looking at and learning about the other Asclepiadaceae:) --Evie
It's March! Spring has to be out there somewhere! :-)
Rainbow Gardens were back from their vacation yesterday and I sprung for "The Hoya Handbook". It will take 2 weeks to get here :(
How come there's no comments made about Hoya books in the Garden Bookworm, Norma, Milan? ;-)
Hmmmm now let me see, why are there no comments at Garden Bookworm? Easy, nobody ever entered any :).
Ha hahahahahahaha HA!!! Thank you, Milan, I needed a good laugh today and that certainly did it! I'm still grinning from ear to ear. Just struck me funny, I guess! :D Ten more days til the book arrives.
I never hear of this bookworm thing. Dale Kloppenburg is going to reissue his book, so hang in there, I talked to him about it. I can get it on disk and I can give you his email address with his permissioin granted. He will sell you the disk. I belong to a private club of Hoya nuts, if any of you want to join it is by invitation only. They are extremely picky who they let in, no trouble wanted. Hoyakins
All the books are stretched. Have mistakes, poor sentence structure. Things in the book that doesn't really belong. Misinformation.
I helped with a book, and I don't even want to tell which one. It certainly wouldn't have been the way I would have done it. But then again, I didn't write it. I only submitted pictures.
Both Christine Burton, Dale Kloppenburg and the man that wrote the book I helped with are over 80 yrs, young, I am just grateful that they write books for us to use, I congratulate them, and thank them.
I started one and it's on file at the Huntington Gardens. All the information that is needed to care for the specific species is on that Disk. I don't want to ever submit pictures again.
Norma
Hi Norma, I just got "The Hoya Handbook" from Rainbow Gardens - is that Dale Kloppenburg's book on disk that you are referring to or is the disk a more detailed book? Where would one find the Disk?
I'm sure that any pictures that you submitted were appreciated and valued.
The "Garden Bookworm" thing is new to Dave's Garden and you can link to it just over on the right side of this page under "DG Network". DG'ers review and comment on gardening books so if you're looking for a book on a specific subject or before you buy an expensive book you can read how others felt about it. The last time I checked there were no reviews for books on Hoya. :(
For those interested...Christine Burton wrote "critiques" to both of Dale Kloppenberg's books...correcting the errors and putting the facts straight. They really are useful for anyone wanting to know about Hoya labeling and names/ID. You can get them from her directly at TheHoyan@bellsouth.net.
Aloha
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There is a lady in Florida ,Lois Duffy , she has old magazines of Chris Burton, they are very cheap, those are for sale at $12.00 each. There are also books for sale at Rainbow Gardens, Kloppenburg has books for sale, not to mention you can join the National Society for $18.00 a year, and get 6 issues with pictures. That way you get the latest news, name changes, new introductions and people who sell Hoya.
At the meetings, they talk and show everything except Hoya. I did attend two meetings and gave up. Contact me privately if you want the addresses of these people. Norma
The magazines of Chris Burton that Norma speaks so highly of are actually newsletters (20+ volumes) of the Hoya Society International (no longer exists unfortunately). The Hoyan issues are full of wonderful information shared by all the members of the society...on IDs, taxonomy, growing and cultivation. I use mine for reference all of the time.
Carol
