How many different H. pubicalyx are there. I have one that was name H. Splash ( the larger leaf) and one named H. pubicalyx. I was told that the H. splash was actually a H. pubicalyx but they are definitely 2 different plants. One has larger leaves with lots of silver streaks and the other one is smaller with just a little silver.
Cindy
That might be difficult to answer.
IMHO behind H. carnosa H. pubicalyx is the second most cultivated Hoya so there may be many variants out there.
Some say pubicalyx cv. Splash is the same as pubicalyx cv. Pink Silver but with a bit more flecking on the leaves, other say they are one and the same.
Other Pubicalyx Cultivars I know of are:
Royal Hawaiian Purple
Philippine Black (some say synonymous with RHP above)
and Red Button
As with most Hoyas leaf size may vary greatly within the same species and even on the same plant and cannot be used as an identifying characteristic.
Milan
Ooops forgot one
H. pubicalyx cv. Bright One
I was also using the silver streaking. Some of the leaves from splash have half of the leaf that is almost all silver.
Cindy
I think it would be fun, if we list all of the Hoya pubcalyx that we have, I wonder how many names we can come up with?
Here is my small collection of H. pubicalyx cultivars:
- Pink Silver (with heavy flecking)
- Another Pink Silver but with a little less flecking on leaves
- Royal Hawaiian Purple
- Red Button
The last two are difficult to tell apart by foliage and haven't flowered yet.
Picture shows (left to right) Pink Silver, RHP and RB
This message was edited May 16, 2004 9:50 AM
H. splash, H. pubicalyx 'Splash' are one and the same...and when mine bloomed, it prooved to be H. pubicalyx cv. Pink Silver. Yes..it is a prettier leaf...and leaves can be influenced by so many factors... Alas..they ARE the same.
OH...and I also have a H. pubicalyx cv. Pink Silver that blooms a dark pink flower...deeper than the light pink of my others. One day I will take a cutting, grow it out and see if it is stable.
How about H. pubicalyx 'Gray Lady' and H. pubicalyx 'Chimera'? Are these just another H. pubicalyx cv. 'Pink Silver'?
H. pubicalyx 'Chimera' is said to be H. pubicalyx 'Royal Hawaiian Purple' where the flowers had been exposed to direct sun light before openeing causing the dark sap to bubble which then results in the dark blotches on the flowers corolla once open.
This can be confusing -- but fun. What about H. pubicalyx 'Reva' and 'Fresno Beauty' ?
I recently got the publicalyx "gray lady". There's nothing gray about it, tho. LOL! It looks similar to pink silver but the leaves are thinner and are a little more succulent (harder is how I would describe them). I also have publicalyx "Reva" and "Bright One" but they're still similar to pink silver. Bright light brings out their color-leaves are a lighter green and they seem to be smaller plants than pink silver. They really haven't grown much since I've had them.
I really would like to know how many varieties are out there, tho. It would be fun to try to collect them all.
Yeah I was wondering what you meant with thinner more succulent leaves :).
Below find a collection of data I gathered on H. pubicalyx cultivars. Most of it is from Christine Burton from the MSN Hoya newsgroup ( I just hate the missing search feature there). I hope she doesn't mind me using and edited short version here :)
I hope I got it correct, no guarantees though
H. pubicalyx cv. Pink Silver, created by Mr. Hummel, a hybridizer from California.
Has also been sold (most likely still is) as:
cv. Silver Pink
cv. Silver Prince
cv. Silver Knight
cv. Appaloosa
Hoya formosa
Hoya purpureo-fusca
cv. Gray Lady
Hoya darwinii variegata
Hoya diversifolia
cv. Splash
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Bright One
Has shorter and broader leaves (in ratio to length), flowers that are a bit darker than Pink Silver and bright rose colored coronas.
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Pretty One
Is colored about the same as Pink Silver but doesn't have such attractive leaves.(?)
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Sweet One
is pure deep pink with white coronas
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Red Buttons grown by Genevieve McDonald, Flowers very dark maroon red with white hairs that give it a grayish cast and very dark red coronas. In hot weather, it spills its sap, which causes uneven coloring. Leaves are shaped like Pink Silver but they are much smaller and have less speckling.
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Royal Hawaiian Purple
is almost identical to Red Buttons but it has longer leaves with more speckling.
Also sold as:
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Chimera
Hoya pubicalyx cv.Fresno Beauty
A seedling of Pink Silver. It's author claimed that it differed in having more silver speckling but it doesn't have as much. The only difference noticed is that the green of the leaves is darker than Pink Silver's, making a greater contrast between the green and silver.
Hoya pubicalyx cv. Reva
Said by its author to be a sister seedling of Fresno Beauty
Hoya Pubicalyx cv. Jungle Garden
Possibly same as cv. Pink Silver
Now with so many names and often so little difference in-between them one might never know if the one we got is correctly named.
Milan
This message was edited May 25, 2004 11:11 PM
When I first started collecting hoyas, and trading, I received almost all of these cultivars...and most of them looked so much alike I settled on just three to keep: A H. pubicalyx cv. Pink Silver with much deeper pink flowers that flowers profusely all year, H. pubicalyx 'Royal Hawaiian Purple', and a small plant of the one running around called "Splash" because of the leaves. Splash is growing up a palm tree...the others growing other places. (I wanted to provide a screen for the guest room but didn't want curtains...so I put up a lattice and the 'Pink Silver' and 'RHP' are growing through it...looks great). With all of the mislabeling and what I received as what...it was simpler to just whittle it down to the 2 best to keep. I've done the same with H. carnosa....kept the H. motoskei, 'Krinkle 8' and the H. fungii. The others are growing out in the woods!
Yep...they were taking over the greenhouse! H. pubicalyx happens to be really "assertive" here...and I love to see them climbing trees and blooming their hearts away! My goal is to grow one of each species of my hoyas on a tree or two...or 200!
I have a pubicalyx that I got from Michael Miyashiro a number of years ago. His label states "Philippine Black". Any idea as to what this one is? Beautiful leaves but no blooms to help with identification.
I received another pubicalyx cutting in trade last summer called "Big Red". Is this a legitimate name. No blooms yet here either but it is a rampant grower!
It is said that H. pubicalyx 'Philippine Black' and 'Royal Hawaiian purple' are one and the same.
Dunno about 'Big Red', maybe someone else here knows about that one.
Milan
Although I don't know how true this is, one website http://www.glasshouseworks.com/succ-hj.html lists H. pubicalyx 'Philippine Black' as follows (there's also a pic):
HOYA PUBICALYX PHILIPPINE BLACK [CHIMAERA] ASC HP TGH "Harlequin Wax Plant" Chimaera of 'Red Buttons' halved with 'Purpureo-fusca [Hort]' with often one half of a leaf or flower cluster being splotched or entire, or not at all! Quite remarkable conversation piece.
Well if you look closely the same picture is used for this one and 'Red Buttons'. LOL
Wouldn't put too much trust on what is written there.
Ditto on that. Many of the H. pubicalyx cultivars with put out a wierd leaf with part of it a deep red, even 'Pink Silver'...at least in my conditions they do. And especially that 'Royal Hawaiian Purple' gets the most wildly colored flowers!!! 'Chimaera' is not a name with any standing... and "purpureo-fusca" isn't even a H. pubicalyx! LOL. Gotta admire them tho...they do get creative, don't they!
Ha - isn't it a shame tho ... as a beginner I quickly noticed some 'discrepancies' in the descriptions offered by suppliers. Sometimes the name/description/pic is of what you want but the plant received is totally different :-(
There's so much investigating one must do to find a reputable supplier and still one must be skeptical of that which is being offered is what it really is (duh, does that make sense?). They do get creative but I, a naive and (previously) trusting beginner, do not admire them. Well, they are getting me to roll up the sleeves and jump into some of the older 'proven' books with both feet ... and thank you for the info provided by you folks and this forum!
