Are Datura and Brugmansia the same thing? sorry, i know it is silly but i am a beginner and very interested in these plants. Thank you!
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Hi Anna07,
I'm new to brugs and daturas also. I will venture to say that the two plants are not the same however. I'm under the impression that they are kind of like cousins.
Welcome to DG by the way!
TC...
At one time they were considered the same and many of the seed catalogs still sell the seeds under the name datura. Brugmansia has been moved to it's own genus now. They say a good way to remember is Angel Trumpets (Brugmansia) will look from the heavens down. Devil's Trumpets (Datura) will gaze upward toward the heavens.
Thank you for thw welcom TC!
Poppysue, can you get Brugmansias from seeds?
Hello Anna,
Here is a link to some good information about Brugmansias. Brugs are closely related to Datura, but have been classified in a different Genera.
http://www.brugmansias.org/
Brugmansia are great to grow from seed! Seeds from various crosses will give you very interesting new flowers to evaluate. Any worth keeping can be easily propagated from cuttings.
Welcome to the Brugmansia and Friends Forum, you'll find many friends here who will be happy to help you with seeds and cuttings.
Wow, what a lovely forum!
thank you for the link Pardacanda.
I am a subscriber of the BGI now.
Anna! You are going to learn so much about brugs! I suggest you get a binder to keep all the info in! :o) There are always questions asked, and someone always has an answer. There are ALOT of amazing hybridizers, and so many people are SO VERY generous! Have fun with your new addiction!
That's great, Anna! Now select some seeds and get growing!
Welcome Anna! :-D
Awww, thank you peeps!
Welocme to Dave's Anna. I am glad you have joined us. Have you found a source for brugs in England?
Are you asking about places that sell them Kell? there are some in the Plant Finder book. I heard about Ludger in Denmark and have sent him an email.
do you grow many of them Kell?
Ludger is in Germany, Anna; he is very helpful with information.
It depends what day you ask me Anna. Some days I think I grow way too many of them, and on other days I suffer from severe brug lust and wish I had many more! LOL Today, I am worrying how I will fit and move them all in my hoophouse fast if we have a frost Friday night as forecasted. Today I have way too many!
I was just inquiring if you had succeeded in finding a place to buy some from in England. You had asked me on another thread on Monday where you could find them and I suggested you google.
I think it is Tonny in Denmark. I think Ludger lives in Germany and I do not think he sells brugs. There is Monika in Germany that has the incredible pink ones on this forum. Are you allowed to import from Germany? If you get them from Monika you can taunt us want-to-haves with pics of them all next year! LOL
http://www.monika-gottschalk.de/
What a sight. Makes me want to learn German.
Hi Anna, and welcome to the insane world of Brugs. Gee could you even try to imagine trying to pick a few of those German delacacies? Good luck, LOL!
Vi
Hi Anna and everyone else,
Another note about the differences between Brugs and Datura that is probably too obvious for all the experts in this forum:
Datura are tender herbaceous, generally short lived, perennials, frequently grown as annuals. Brugmansia are tender woody, frequently long lived, perennial small trees or shrubs.
Both Daturas and Brugmansias are in the Nightshade (Solanaceae) family and all parts of the plants are poisonous. In addition, here in the US, they have a bit of a cult following as a frequently fatal and almost always unpleasant drug.
Since there are so many pictures of brugs up here, I'll put up a picture of a Datura metel 'double purple' I grew this last year.
-Erik
Hi Erik,
Come back and visit with us in the brug forum often, if you can. Sounds like you have some expertise you could share.
Thank you Erik!
What a lovely flower!
Erik, I think your distinctions between the two genera are the most important, the the ones used by those who have classified them. Great photo, too, thanks! John