As each Rothkirch bloom opens, I marvel.
Even though cut back heavily the last weeks, it is still blooming well.
Seems to really like the cooler weather and mountain air.
For all its specialness, I can see why Monika used in her hybridizings.
My thanks to NHE (especially Alan) ..for Rothkirch.
My first seedlings from RK pollen are growing well.
I have some excellent crosses with this one this year (o:
What a wonderful blend of beauty and elegance.
Oh, That is absolutely beautiful.
I feel like it's redundant, but that's the word, wow.
Alice, she is a beauty. I hope to one day see blooms like this at my place. Thanks for posting the picture.
That one is doing great for you, Alice! It sure is a beauty :)
Wow Alice! It sure is a beauty.
Alice, congrats on your seedlings, i hope they all make beauties for you. this is so pretty. is it a good bloomer, and does it root easily?
a beauty, where did you get yours?
I'd marvel too! What a special brug (:
This brug world is getting more exciting each day, we never know what will be shown next. Long live the internet, DG and all of you wonderful growers!
Kill me
I have watched this picture for more than one time.
I really am wondering, only wondering...
Are you really shure to have the wild Rothkirch from Southamerica?
The colour like milk pink and the tendrils look so strange.
Forgive me and ignorate my words....
Luger, do you have the wild one? Maybe you could do a pollen swap with Alice or someone to see if they will make pods. USA Rothkirch x German Rothkirch and visa versa. I don't think we'll ever know for sure until someone makes those crosses. I think somebody said before that the NH's source for the plant was Hodnicks. Hopefully it's the real one but it is always possible they made a mistake.
It would be good to know for sure. Even if they ended up to be different... I bet the cross would make some fabulous babies.
Poppy, yes I have the wild one..:-)
Thank you, the pollen swap already is going on:-) don´t need any more members...
Do you talk about Hodnicks from France? LOL..no more words:-)
I would´nt order a Frosty Pink...roflol.
This is your US Rothkirch???
As usual Alice, your brugs are beautifully grown. You should offer tours! I would pay to go on one! Of course you would have to tie our hands behind our heads!
I'm not positive about that... but I thought I read somewhere here... NH got it from from Hodnicks. I don't know if I could ever find the thread again but I'll look.
I could not find it... maybe I never did read that and I imagined it. I did see where Alice said in a previous thread that the NH Rothkirch originated from Dr. Preissel.
The origin of this plant, would be Dr. Preissel himself, so I guess it must be real! I am sure he knows the differance between Rothkirch and....
Beautiful Alice.
http://davesgarden.com/fp.php?pid=31693
this link is to Monika's RK. i thought it was said it was hard to root and didn't bloom much, can't remember.
It IS hard to root! Probably do better wih airlayering.
Tracey, are you saying the Preissel sent it to Native Habitat? you are right he would know it, but it seems Ludger would also.
Awesome!
Why doesn't someone write to NH with pictures of both the European ,and the one from NH and ask politely where they got their mother plant because there is some doubt in some peoples minds ....and state the concerns.....seems like a simple solution
Yes, that is where it came from. I think what everyone is going by is the color, enviromental differances, if you look in Alice's picture, you can see a nice recurved bloom.
People have already asked him, CC. He said it came from Dr. Preissel. Sorry I brought the Hodnik thang up. I didn't mean to cause a stir.
From the Preissel book: B. aurea 'Rotkirch' Originally grew in the wild in Colombia. Has very beautiful pink flowers that turn reddish as they fade. Does not have many flowers.
This is all the book says about it. I think both pictures are beautiful and if it is already being tested, all we have to do is wait for the results. Poppysue, you didn't cause a stir. It is good to talk about things we question as long as we don't make it a competition.
no you didn't cause a stir. it could be the real thing, it could be RK 'new' like Ocre new. Ludger has pollen coming from the US one and vice versa and that will help hopefully.
I am back and to DG and to my thread again ... lol
It's cold here today.
All the cannas coming out now. I have been too busy and too tired the last weeks.
As for this RK ..
I speak with NHE when I need. They are always informative. I always come away 'more educated'.
They do know their brugs.
They assured me when questioned the first time ..this/their RK originated from Dr. Preissel.
Bloom pictured is just opening. They do deepen and darken colour .. depending. I will see if a darker pix.
If you look to the pot there are a couple spent blooms. (I know .. not for good pix to leave there before taking)o:
But note the older more collapsed has a reddish tone.
Though someone may not think 'real'compared to another's? bottom line ..
I believe climate, temps, water, etc ..determine how a brug will perform and bloom.
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Well whatever it is Alice, yours is a very special one! I like it better than mine! LOL
I'm sort of glad to hear that it is hard to root. This is why it is taking NH so long to ship my RK. I ordered it back in June. I'm not so worried now.
Cindy
They also send good size ones Cynthia. So think of it growing big just somewhere else! They are so backordered on lots of their plants I guess. I wanted to order some and they haven't taken new orders for months. I also wish they would get some photos of some of their brugs.
These are only rumors Alice!
I have both, the original Rothkirch and 'yours'to find out. Since I have the original Rothkirch for about ten years now, I had time enough to study its growing and flowering habits.
'Your' Rothkirch plant (if I may say so) is smaller but large enough to compare at least the leaves. They look alike.
The 'original' Rothkirch finally started flowering. The flowers are smaller and the color is pale compared to summer flowers. It roots easier, what puzzled me a bit in the beginning but I think to know the explanation for it.
I keep my fingers crossed for you that you will get good seedlings out of the RK crosses.
Edited for correct spelling
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Dreamy, compelling, a sight for sore eyes
Thanks, Monika. I appreciate your input and I respect your knowledge.
I am not discouraged.
Just irritated sometimes when things get picked apart. lol
There are solid reasons things can look different. And pictures only a representation of the real.
And the RKs may be different. Please post what you find out.
But nonetheless ..'this' Rothkirch is an excellent gorgeous specimen.
It has all good attributes.
And the fact that it has grown well and blooms well seems a bonus to me (o:
In moving my growing to my farm location .. there have been things I have had to work through.
Most important is my knowledge gained about my water.
I have both ground and cistern/rain water. Separate supply sources.
And knowledge now that where one is used works great ..and where that water doesn't.
My ground water is excellent for the brugs. The cistern/rain not.
The ground water makes a difference to how my brugs grow and perform.
And believe contributes to rooting cuttings easily, also.
Thanks everyone (o:
Alice
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We have good well water and it does make a difference from city water, which I will not even drink, let alone put my brug cuttings in to root!
I am pretty sure we have the correct RK. Keep them growing and blooming Alice, love your GH.
Alice, your brugs are always beautiful, and i am always amazed at how many you have. i love that color pink.
Alice, it is gorgeous . . sure would love to have it growing in my yard. I agree with you . . soil, temperature, water, humidity all have something to do with the color of the bloom. I remember reading when Monika posted some very dark ones and she said it was ideal weather conditions for the buds and blooms.
She's a dream Alice. You certainly have a green thumb.
Mine is not blooming but seems to be going through a growth spurt at the moment. Hopefully by keeping it going in the gh over the winter, i'll get some flowers in the spring.
This one also is a native habitat plant.
I can't wait to get rotkirch,L'Amour,pink beauty,rosamond and butterfly all blooming at the same time.
What a pollen daubing day that will be!!!
Sounds great to me. Let me at 'em!
