Norma,
attached find a picture of the top and bottom of H. australis 'keysii' leaf.
Hoya australis 'keysii' leaf
Yep that's it. Thanks, it was driving me nuts. Do you have one? Do you want one, I always send one to people to identify the plant correctly. Norma
I'm sorry to put this here, but can't where to start a new topic. Well here goes, another one that drove me nuts.
H. bella vs. H. lancelota:
"They are both white corollas and red coronas. The coronas are very different. H. bella's is blocky like a fort. Coronal ends are blunt.
H. lanceolata has a corona like a pagoda roof, high center slanting down and outward. Lobes are more narrow also.
Very easy to see this difference, why anyone would mistake them or lump them is beyond me. Lots of other differences but these are easy to see. The flower of lanceolata is a little larger of the two". Dale Kloppenburg
via for you 2 I felt this information should be shared.
Norma, the pictures are from my australis 'keysii' thus already got one. Thanks for the offer I'll take a raincheck for now :).
As for H. lanceolata vs. bella. I saw somewhere a similar statement but as of now the correct naming is said to be H. lanceolata ssp. lanceolata and H. lanceolata ssp. bella.
ahhh good old botanery, constant name changes and nobody agrees together on one ;)
Milan
Norma, the pictures are from my australis 'keysii' thus already got one. Thanks for the offer I'll take a raincheck for now :).
As for H. lanceolata vs. bella. I saw somewhere a similar statement but as of now the correct naming is said to be H. lanceolata ssp. lanceolata and H. lanceolata ssp. bella.
ahhh good old botanery, constant name changes and nobody agrees together on one name ;)
Milan
Well, it looks like this IS a lighter Keysii...I bought it with a hoya labeled "purpurea-fusco" that most definately ISN'T a P-F, so I wanted to make sure!
Foliage on Hoyas can be very variable and a positive ID by leaves only is most of the time impossible.
Are the leaves on yours glabrous or do they have pubescence one one or bothe sides?
H. pubicalyx often had (and most likely still is) been mislabeled as H. purpureo-fusca. Leaves on p-f have pronounced longitudinal and are very similar to the ones from H. cinnamomifolia.
Just got two cuttings of australis two weeks ago, and already they're beginning to root. It's a start. Already looking forward to blooms. (Yes, I know PATIENCE!)
Also ordered some from Kartuz and Logee's.
Crasulady2, have one blooming now which Logee's sold as H. lanceolata bella. Does anyone know what this is? I haven't bothered to climb up on a ladder to inspect the coronas yet.
Would be nice to see more life on this forum. Let's share experiences, good and bad, not to mention questions.
I just got confirmation that Australis v. keysii is the same as Australis v. australis. I read it in Liddles and Forsters book.
Keysii is a synom. name.
Nominclutter is really a mess to deal with, but it happens in all species.
I also had it confirmed, that there are more than 163 certified Hoya succulents. Some may not agree but this was stated by Van Donkelaar this appeared in the new Illustrated Handbook of Succulent Plants. The writer only named 163 due to the lack of space. There is only 33 specie pictures.
The first thing that I noticed in this Lexicon is a mistake in the Crassula section.
I do have a wonderful Pink wine Macgillvrayii, with a 2" flower, that hangs down, the tips of the corella does not turn back, but instead forward. It only had one open at this time, but is the first time for this plant. I did take pictures about 12 of them, and I will, when I can post them for you to see.
My obovata has unbles in flower at every node from the previouis year. They look very much like H Kerri flowers, not to exciting. I didn't post because I just couldn't find where dave put this forum. I have looked. Hugs, Norma
Norma, I believe you are talking about the publication in Austrobaileya "Variation in Hoya Australis R.BR. EX Traill" by Paul I Foster dated 1991. Within it lists Hoya keysii under Hoya australis ssp australis.
Same is noted here: http://www.sgapqld.org.au/taxf.html
both publications do mention Hoya keysii but not mention Hoya australis ssp. Keysii!
I do not know the validity of H. australis ssp. Keysii but the IHA lists this name.