Hi, I'm brand new to brugs & have recently become obsessed with buying some brugs. Can someone suggest a good source?
I've been growing cannas like crazy butnow I think I'm turning to a brugmaniac! Thanks so much,
Bambi
What's the Best Source for Brugs?
Kartuz Nursery in CA sells brugs. That would be a start for you. It is not legal for me to send cuttings to you, so you will probably have to find another CA person to trade with or buy from a good source out there. Wish I could help you more, but thats all I can offer right now. Sorry!!
Logees and Native Habitat and Captive Plants http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/caplants/brugmansia.html
all send to California.
When finding this last one for you, I found one there I am going to have to order myself.....LOL! And I know some of the brug sellers on Dave's will get all the paper work done for you if you pay the cost to do it. Order lots so make it worth while! I know Cala of Calas Tropicals, http://calastropicals.com/module/store/
will get the paperwork for you, but she is moving and will be setting up her new store soon. She has tons and sells seeds even now of great brug crosses.
You can buy on ebay also. Have fun looking around!
Wow. I bet most of us did not know it wasn't legal to send cuttings to California. I was going to send some down there in the fall. Guess now I won't be. The person did not mention this. I bet he didn't know either. Thanks for posting that fact. Are there any other states with similar laws?
many people ship to california but it isn't legal. there are also quite a few bruggies in california.
I didn't know it was illegal to ship to California, either. What paperwork is required? I think I remember seeing some people on Ebay say that they don't ship to Ca, AZ and Hawaii, are those states illegal too?
yes!
I bought a brug from Ebay several years ago and then I got concerned and emailed our agriculture dept. and some official emailed me and the grower. a judydu was the seller I believe. anyway, the upshot was the ebay seller needed no special paperwork for brugs were not on the list and her state was OK to mail from the official told us. You should check for the main problems are from citrus states. some states are ok, some you can't send any dirt, some have season limits. It is very complicated.
They get sent all the time from ebay from all states. I think the state has given up! LOL. And then they import fruits and veggies from all over the world and you can't tell me they are all inspected. We have so much come over the border from Mexico that never even gets inspected.
It is like all the pesticides we do not allow anymore on our crops but we sell them to other countries to use on the crops they sell to us to eat. Makes sense!
That's surprising, Kell, about the pesticide selling that is (stifling myself here :0)
Oops I have send many brug cuttings to California in the last couple of years.
Morph, you didn't know that? There is a list somewhere of countries that use banned US pesticides on their crops and then sell the produce back to us.
No, Cala, I did not know that. It makes me mad as I keep learning more secrets and/or other interesting facts I stumble across both on DGs and in my readings! I'm an activist in waiting but don't know where to start or which to tackle first!
Brugs vs Datura
How come Brugs can't be shipped to Arizona and Datura Can??
I bought 4 brugs on ebay & a few cuttings... so I'm officially a brugie!!! I can't wait for them to bloom.
Thanks everyone for all your help!!!
Bambi
Congratulations, back2back!!! What kind did you get ~ do you know? I can't wait to see pictures!!!!
I don't believe brugs are banned from entering California from other states. The State of California is concerned of Plant material entering the state, but the focus is on large commercial operations. Out of state shippers can apply for a permit. There are certain requiremtns, including inspection of crops to ensure no unwanted pest enters (like fruitfly in citrus). Some growers even state in their catalog that they are cleared to ship to California. We, exchanging cuttings and buying plants on eBay or from out of state sources do not pose a threat to the growing industry. I wouln't worry or lose any sleep over this.
I recently became a brug lover during my last trip to Germany. So many gardens had them, and they were stunning. I decided to take a risk, and "smuggled" a pack of seeds over. I have not planted them yet (waiting for early spring, no?). LittleShima asked about the diff between Brug. and Datura. I'm very interested also, as the seeds I purchased are called datura suaveolens. I had no idea these flowers have so many fans! I thought I was all alone! I just can't wait to smell them again. Hardly anyone in my neck of the woods grows any brugs despite how many folk around here are into gardening and have gardens (northwest bugalow belt of Chicago). I may be a new gardener, but I'm workin hard to catch up and I need brugs! or daturas
I have a friend near Milwaukee who grows brugs and there are people around Detroit that I know raising them. Several people in Illinois, Ohio, etc. are doing quite well with them. You will be hooked on brugs in no time after you see that first one bloom for you. Better get those seeds soaked and planted. Especially if you want to enjoy one or more flushes of flowers next summer. Just watch new seedlings for spider mites. Those little buggers seem to know when there is new and tender growth close by.
zanusi:
Daturas and Brugmansias are often incorrectly applied, even by some growers and nurseries. Daturas (Devil's Trumpets) are annuals. Trumpets are smaller than face upward from a short, shrubby, sprawling shrub. Seed pods often a spiny ball. Brugmansias are perennial and grows as a shrub or small tree (although out here in California I've seen trees as tall as 20 ft and just as wide). Trumpets are larger and hang, some straight, others at an angle like peeling church bells. Seedpods look like chili peppers, some roundish, most elongated. The leaves on the daturas are foul smelling when brushed. Brugmansia leaves are not.
Even though your seeds are labeled datura, they MIGHT be brugmansias, because datura was a term applied to both, until they were separated by characteristics and the upright growing, hanging trumpet was re-identified by botanists as brugmansias. For more information go to my webpage, www.tree-frog.net Also check out ABADS website American Brugmansia and Datura Society. In Attached photo rows 1 and 2 are brugmansias, row 3 are daturas. There are many more varieites of each.
By-the-way: Unless you intend to grow these plants indoors, both are frost tender and will not survive your infamous Chicago winters (I'm a Chicagoan that years ago fled your weather in favor of balmy California).
mainfrog!
Thanks so much for your help. I will visit your site soon, but cannot immediately. I noticed the nomenclature confusion the more research I did. I'm assuming the seeds I purchased are the lovely smelling brugs, becasue I asked if they were when I bought them, and the plants I saw in germany were aften very big and very sweet smelling. Anyway, I will continue my efforts later, but thanks. Relocation has always been a tick at the back of my mind...
Mainfrog - just thought of another question. You explain at your site (couldn't wait eventhough I have quizzes to grade) that brugs like shade and moist soil. I have an area that needs just that! Now, I have heard that dautras, although they are annuals, self seed very well. Perhaps for my situation (being in chitown and not able to bring too much stuff in for the winter), it would be better to fill this area with daturas, and evethough the winter will kill them they will most likely come back again in the spring?. Do the flowers smell good eventhough you indicate that the leaves when stirred, are foul smelling? Do brugs self seed?
Boy I tell you sometimes this makes me CRAZY!!! I have inquired to all the seed catalogs I could and they would NOT SHIP TO ARIZONA and have written many of you on DG to see where I could get cuttings, seeds, anything. Then I walk into Lowes and guess what they are selling?? BRUGS-- BIG BRUGS, BRUG BUSHES, BRUG TREES-BURGS BRUGS BRUGS!!!I must say they ones they had were very "sad" looking and very expensive. I asked them about them not being shipped here and they didn't have a clue what I was talking about. From NOW ON I am going to go after what ever plant I want period!haha Seems to me my DG friends know more than the state of Arizona about alot of things and I know I want to start Brugs.
LittleShima,Arizona has some strict policies preventing shipment into the state without special inspections.This applies to all live plants and not just to brugs.You might check Ebay.Many of the sellers there ignore the law and ship anyway.Also many nurseries have the proper permits.
Native Habitat,Country Garden and Valley Growers to name just three.I'm sure there are others as well.
to mainfrog: I think I am still quite uninformed about brugs. i need to read more and write less...