cross a Datura with a Brug? If so, what is the result, a new brug or datura species? I have a triple purple datura that is blooming and if any of my brugs decide to open their buds, I'd like to try this to see what I get. Is it even possible? Has anyone tried this? Am I insane for wanting to cross them?
Can you...
I dont think so---but then again?--Im a novice at best--wouldnt it be wonderful to have the possible standard shape and bloom of a brug with the fertilizer requirements of a dat??????????
Morph there was a discussion about this awhile back. I don't remember who was at the heart of it, but I am thinking Tonny, maybe Eclipse??? I don't know if it has been done or when, but I asked to on the thread. Apparently the possibility is there.
Mmmmm... I thought there might be a lot more interest in this. It's only my first year and I'm thinking it would be so pretty to add purple into a pink to see what the result would be. Is this too touchy of a topic and maybe that's why not much response?
I tried searching through the threads to find something about this, but it's just too big to narrow it down to a reasonable number of threads in which to find the discussion...
Morph, a cross between Datura and Brugmansia has not been possible so far. Thorn apples are self fertile. Brugmansias are not.
To my belief, other colors can be added to brugmansias only by labratory exchanges of color genes.
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Thanks, Monika! So, I guess the flower structure of a Datura is different than a Brug? I followed Calalily's Brugmansias: Biology 101 lesson carefully and was curious how the Datura will be different.
Calalily's Brugmansias: Biology 101: where do I find this thread/link??.....:o)
Here ya go, WillowWasp http://davesgarden.com/t/362575/
Gee poppysue, Thanks, this link is great and so is the other...Good stuff here folks...... :o)
Morph, I think Bruno was interested in doing this type of cross. He was buying some sort of kit. I have not heard from him in a while so I do not know if he ever tried it. I say go for it, the worse that will happen is it won't take! I wonder if you can transfer a dat virus to the brug though.
You dat and brug growers, have any of you had trouble with spreading viruses when you grow them close together?
Thanks, Kell! Funny thing is that my dats are spread all around the yard in the ground in various places. I kept the brugs in their pots. If I get a brug & dat blooming at the same time, I'm going to try to cross pollinate by hand. I've a brug just beginning to open and a purple dat that has several blooms opening. Keeping my fingers crossed to see what happens on both sides :)
I've had a bit of conversation about this on this thread, too, Kell:
http://davesgarden.com/t/394344/
I think it's been done...a dat and brug.
A Dr. R Sanders, I believe. Course my mind gets confused at times & I might be wrong :)
Thanks so much, LadySwan! I've searched & found a few good links with information :) So, maybe I'm not so crazy after all? Here's a picture of what I'd like to try to cross... The brug is a pink insignis that has been teasing me with its strides to bloom!
here is the link http://www.americanbrugmansia-daturasociety.org/will_they_cross.htm
Morph as I understand it one way to get one kind of plant that is similar to another but usually will not cross with it, you must take some of its own pollen and destroy it enough so it will not cause pollination but leave enough so when pounded together with the foreign pollen, then put on the plant, the plant is fooled and accepts it and the foreign pollen is the one that actually takes.
Now, Susie was not the one that told me this so I think it may be true. LOL. I am very gullible and Susie loves to get me going.
Mmmmmm... I'm gullible, too, but game to try. It's been a lot harder to get to the stamen (?) in the datura. It's not quite like Cala's pictures at all from Brug Biology 101. That might be the first hint...