What is the reason these brugs cant be shared back and forth from here to Europe..??? Is this a NEVER thing or will it just take time..
I'm curious...
Several years ago a law was passed that is enforced by APHIS(Animal/plant health inspection service) that covers many different plants. It was passed to prevent the spread of disease to agricultural crops.
Earlier this year I got a newsletter from the USDA about a problem with geraniums brought in from South Africa. They had a stem rot bacteria that could wipe out our entire commercial crops of potatoes, tomatoes and peppers if it got loose from the greenhouses. I had not ordered any of these geraniums but another gh in TN had.
Sweet potato vines(Blackie, Margarite, etc)can carry a disease that could wipe out commercial sweet potato crops, so they aren't ever allowed into the US from offshore.
Brugmansias are included mainly because of the virus problems that they can harbor. If these escape from brugmansias(especially the datura potyvirus which Europe has and we don't)they could cause millions of dollars of damage to our commercial food crops.
so is that just for plants or does it apply to seeds too?
Thanks for asking this earthling, I've been curious myself :)
It applies to seeds of some things(brugmansias being one) because virus and some diseases can be transmitted thru seeds. You can get a list from the USDA office in your state. Laws vary from state to state, depends on what crops are grown there and what invasive species they don't want to come into their state or what plants/seeds could cause potential harm.
Sometimes they are prohibited because of a specific insect like nematodes.
These laws are good. We have foreign countries to thank for lily beetles, Japanese beetles, sweet potato whitefly, southern pine borers, chrysanthemum rust....the list goes on.
but we should thank them for brugs in the first place, because none of them grow here wild. :)
We get lots of plants from other countries. Many of the newest plants on the market are from Australia, South America and Africa. What would our gardens be like without Million Bells, Fan Flower, Out Back Daisies, Osteospermum just to name a few. What I'm saying is, the quarrantine is a good idea. And restricting plants from certain areas where there is a problem(like countries where DPV is a problem in the wild) is a good idea.
I love my brugmansias, but wouldn't want to endanger the mater crop in the next county or potatoes. Steak just isn't good without a baked potato.
Isn't there some kind of quarantine procedure? what are the phyto-sanitary certificates I've seen mentioned? (hope I got that right!) I understand and respect the reasoning behind the law, but oh how we are missing out, I'd swim across the ocean for some of those beauties, if I could find water wings big enough! (maybe QE sized, that would work!)
Carena, you can contact your local office of USDA and they will give you the form to fill out to get a postentry quarantine certificate. It's easy to acquire.
You will need the postentry quarantine certificate, an import certificate and a packet of stickers that you send to the person you're importing the brugs from which they must put on the outside of the package when they send it. These stickers let customs know that you've complied with the requirements to import brugs. Then you must quarrantine them for two years. States vary a bit in their postentry quarantine requirements, but most only require the brugs be kept 10ft from all other plants though some require a separate quarantine area. Some states inspect for free, some charge. The sender must include a phytosanitary certificate(which you pay for, usually $30) and the USDA inspector will want to see that when your brugs arrive and he/she comes to inspect them.
hmm, it might be worth it, let them grow nice and big for two years, then could I share cuttings after that (with permission from the hybridizer, of course)?
after that 2 years you don't need permission, you bought them.
Cala, thanks for all the info..I figured that was the reason, but also wondered why more people arent importing if the waiting time is only 2 years. Seems like a short time to wait, actually....especially to those who are heavily into hybridizing and want some fresh blood (so to speak).
Good information Susie. Let's say someone orders from across the pond and they don't have the postentry quarantine certificate....what would happen? Will the brugs be held up at customs? Everyone should definitely be sure they have all the paperwork so they don't lose the cuttings/money.
I think Barb lost some at Customs because one piece of important info was missing. It just depends on how thorough the customs officers are I guess.
Did Barb lose both her money and her cuttings? I think I remember that she was sent a book as a friendly guesture from whomever she imported them from. If memory serves me correct it was a large sum of money, remember the phytosanitary certificate is expensive, plus shipping costs, etc, etc.
Barb may come along and answer the question more completely.
she lost both. That's one of the risks you take, is that they don't make it from there to here.
If all the paperwork is included, there should be no risk or loss. If I recall correctly, Barbara lost hers because they did not tell her that she needed this other paper to be included.
you're right, I just meant that plants don't always survive from GA to NY or something. worded it badly :)
I think I was thinking of someone else that lost a shipment because of the cold. lack of sleep:) lol
Bonnie,
Was it you who grew out Georgia Peach from Eric's seeds? Do you have a picture of Georgia Peach? I want to compare my flowers to Georgia Peach.
yep, it was me. It has long long long tendrils.
They do look very long. Have you measured them?
this is last years picture, it's just Y'ing again. I can't remember if I measured them last year or not. I think these are the longest tendrils I have on anything I grow. this is a very first night picture.
Back to brugs from overseas....can't they be insured by the seller?