lilium problems this year.

hi i posted a thread about this a long while back. well i finally got off my duff and took some pictures for you folks here. all of my asiatics have gotten this and a fellow gardener who lives by me also has had this problem this year. it appears that the problem is greater in shadier areas, with those with less air circulation, less sun obviously and of course takes over the little newcomers most quickly. my flowers come out looking gorgeous but as they age they also get spots on them. i'm thinking it has everything to do with all the moisture we had this spring.
i have noticed that a few of my orientals are getting some of the rust marks on there leaves starting a couple weeks ago, but not all of them and no where near as bad as these pictures of the asiatics.
appreciate all the help you can give. debi z

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and a picture of one of the gardens effected

I seem to remember someone saying something about a virus that effects lilies.....

I think it is frost damage.....if lilies stay too long in the freezer, they will get damaged. There should be more people with problems if they are the ones from the Co-op.

Mine aren't from the co-op. I do have this problem with a few of the asiatics but I have to admit they are in the bed that gets the most shade and the bed that I cleaned out last.

My orientals are fine. No problem with those at all.

We did have a lot of freeze and thaw here with the late....I should say non existent.....spring. We also
had way to much rain....rust is a big problem...by the time
everything got sprayed it was too late for some.

My guess is rust with my garden.

these are not from the co-op bleek. the ones i am having problems with are 2 and 3 years in the ground already. i'm thinking rust too, but i'm not an expert so here i am asking. :) thanks for your input. also, we had a VERY cold winter and spring and this has been happening from springtime. so perhaps it is from frost. hmmmmm????

Debi, check out the photos on this site http://www.vws-flowerbulbs.nl/other/diseases/diseases2.htm I think it might be boytrytis.

Debi, have you planted any tiger lilies near them? Tiger lilies can carry disease without showing any effect of it. Then they can transfer it to other types of lilies.

i think the borytis is the culprit, that would also explain my tomatoe plants.
"The second problem, Botrytis fungus (Botrytis elliptica), is also fairly easy to diagnose, and will appear as brownish leaf spots on the body of the lily (and probably also on tomato plants, and rose bushes, if they are present in the garden). As with aphids, this problem can be corrected with any one of many common fungus control products, such as a product suitable for use on tomatoes or roses. Copper sprays are particularly safe and effective."
i have garden alive's "soap shield" i'll try this asap and keep up with removing the brown debris. i wasn't going to remove the stems until they came off naturally but now i'm thinking i might remove them before the cooler temps start to settle in here again. the fungus grows and spreads in cooler temperatures, 60 degrees is its ideal.

do you think i should just cut the stem at the ground or should i pull the bulbs and cut the stem? i couldn't find anywhere that talked about this.
debi

noh2o, the tigers i planted this year arrived and went into the ground after this started. also i had read this and planted them off in a corner alone. thanks for the help. i appreciate it. debi