row run brugs

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

I have an area that I have prepared in order to row run some brugs.I am hopeing that someone could give me information on how far apart to space the plants in the rows and how far apart should the rows be?

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I planted mine on 12 inch centers(12 inches between plants, 12 inches between rows) and they did good, but you may want to leave more room if you need to get between the rows.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I did it for the first time this year and I have not been home in 5 weeks to tell you how it worked. I fear I planted them too close together but I am limited by my space. I planted them with about a foot between.

when is your first frost? are you going to dig them and bring them in or cover their roots and hope they come back in the spring?

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Cala,
Is that actually enough space for them to develope a nice canopy? Those spacings were actually what I had in mind myself though because as Kell has mentioned space is limited.

Kell,
Our ground does not freeze here and the brugs do come back from the roots. My plans are to row run everyting that is not a versicolor. Those will go into pots which is were they will stay and they will go in the GH for the winter.I also do not intend on haveing any nine footers in there this winter either. Any brug that goes in will be cut to the extreme but not below the Y. I have plans to take a minimum of 3 cuttings per plant of each variety that I have also to insure survival of all.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Sounds like you have a good plan! I also send my brug friends some cuttings of the ones I would be too sad to lose for I know they will always share back if needed.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Catsmeow, they will have enough room to make a Y and bloom, and they all will probably develop at different rates, so the answer is yes and no, lol. Are you planning on leaving them there forever? If that is the plan, the answer is no, they won't have enough room to be pretty. I did that last year, they were on three foot centers and still grew together and made a hedge! I couldn't tell where one ended and the other began.
I have a friend who cuts her brugs back every year, she leaves two feet of stem on them and hers bloomed before mine! I cut some of mine back last winter because the Y part was touching the top of the greenhouse. They made a side branch that came out and grew straight up, can't hardly tell where I cut them off now. They bloomed the same times the ones with a Y already there bloomed. Just when I think I have these brugs all figured out, they don't follow the rules!

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Kell,
I'll have cuttings out the ying yang come fall. I have all intentions on keeping the people at the post office busy.

Cedar Key, FL(Zone 9a)

I think part of it depends on if you're planting cuttings or seedlings that you're gunna cull once they bloom

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

CC,
These plants will all be cuttings. All of my seedlings are in pots.

Cala,
My plans are to leave them there once they are planted. I think just to be on the safe side i'll allow 5 ft between the plants and 3 ft between the rows. Once they have Y'd and a canopy develops any growth that prohibts me walking between the rows will be removed and used for cuttings or just get composted depending on the variety.As far as the canopies growing into each other between the plants,I don't care about that. I just need to get these things in the ground so they an do their thing before the weather starts getting cool again. That should be sometime in October and that is just around the corner and will be here before we know it.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

My bruglings that I planted so closely, I just want them to flower. From how they look, I will keep some and toss others. I can't keep them all LOL so I sure hope everyone is not a triple. Next year a whole new crop will go in there to grow.

Monroe, WI(Zone 4b)

Cala, you can get that vicious with them in the fall? Good to know, because I want to really hack mine back before I put them in the g'house. I think I need to start a new thread because I have questions about doing that.

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Well I went out this morning and started work again on my little area to row run the brugs.During the process of tilling the spot I managed to mangle an irrigation line and had water spewing into the air. That was only a minor problem though and was easily repaired. Progress resumes. I got the area tilled,fertilized(10-10-10 all purpose)and ready to plant. Finally!

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Newnan, GA(Zone 8a)

Looks good david!

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

This pic gives an idea as to how far apart my rows are and how far apart the plants actually are in the rows.Susie,Kell and I discussed this last night.

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Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

One more and this is it for now. All of the mess that you see in the background IS going to be removed. And 6ft privacy fence is going to be put around the entire area. The plants are in the ground now and are being watered.
The building that you see in the background is my dad's workshop. The lower half which appears in the photos as a plywood wall will be coming down. Once it is gone that will give me another 24ft of area in length to work with. Guess what's going to be planted there. If you said brugs you're right.

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Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

thanks tig,
It's been hot dirty work but it'll be worht it. I can't wait to get all that mess cleaned up though. My sisters boyfriend helped to build the local hospital which opened in November and something possessed him to bring home a bunch of junk from the job site which ended up somehow behind my house. Go figure that one.
Now that I have the plants in the ground i'm going to HD or Lowes and see if I can find some hay or straw,not pine to cover the ground with.
You an also see my bamboo that I brought home from work last week in the bacground of one of the photos. I need to get that planted soon. Just need to find an isolated area that it can have for itself.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

LOL Cat, your idea of limited space and mine are 2 different things! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I think I am the only one on Daves's that works out of a postage stamp!!!

I love your brug garden. It will look so grand when they all are huge and full of blooms. I can't wait to see all you pictures as they grow up.

Brugvalley, Germany(Zone 7b)

David, please watch your brugs in full sun. May be you must give a little shadow to some.
Some very young cuttings( from sensitive brugs) will need one year of good caring ( not much sun,good watching at all)
Elder plants will not be that sensitive.
I wish much luck to you.You have some goodies :-)

Tonasket, WA(Zone 5a)

Catsmeow, very interesting to see your brug garden row run area. Where do you live. I see it's zone 8. I live in the desert area of WA zone 5, sometimes 6. Can freeze very hard here. Last fall the last of Oct and first part of Nov. got down to 10 above zero, not sure if even a good mulch would save the brugs. I have always just taken cuttings in the fall to carry over. Good luck with your garden. Donna

Cedar Key, FL(Zone 9a)

Looks great and BOY do they have a lot of room...they'll be spoiled!!LOL

Poor kell grows Brugs in her car.......

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Cedar Key, FL(Zone 9a)

LOL

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

then again at least I have a big car! LOL

Cedar Key, FL(Zone 9a)

But think.
If you had a pickup you'd have lots of room......

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

and if my truck had no roof I could even sunbath under the brugs trees! Who needs a yard anyway! LOL

Angleton, TX(Zone 9a)

Gosh, you have been doing alot of work. That is such a nice area to grow your seedlings and to see what they will look like. I hope you get some beauties!

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Frannie,
These are all cuttings. I haven't even thought about the seedlings yet! This area that you see in the pics will eventually be made bigger, once I get all of the junk that doesn't belong to me out of the way. My dad likes to collect and store it around his workshop. Which just happens to be located on my property. So the mess has to get cleaned up because I want the space to grow brugs.

Rutholive,
I live in a small town called Murrells Inlet. It's about 20 minutes south of Myrtle Beach,South Carolina. We can grow brugs outdoors here and they do come back from the roots. I did loose a versicolor several years ago though that was left outside but it came back once before dying the second winter.Other than a Charles Grimaldi that't i've had for about 6 years all of my plants are new to me since February of this year. In an earlier posting to this thread I said I wasn't going to plant my versicolors in the ground but in pots. Since that posting i've changed my mind and did inf act plant them in the ground. I'll take plenty of cuttings from everything to insure survival of all I have just in case some do not return from the roots.

Kell,
If you want to get more in that car,just take out the back seat!(:D The area that you see in my pics has 26 brugs growing in it. The rows are not quite 3ft apart but almost and the plants are about the same in the rows. I figure that's enough room for them to do their thing. Any growth that may grow over and block a row i'll just cut it and use it for cutting material or compost it. I have another bed of brugs with 14 in it plus about 15 more just scattered around the yard here and there. And i'm not sure how many seedlings. I have seedlings of crosses made by Bonnie Vaughan,JT Sessions and T McLeod all of which are now about 4ft or more tall and i'm pushing them extremly hard for blooms by fall.I also have seedlings from Brugnanny and Brugie which are about 5ft tall and hope to see them bloom soon.
I fertilize them with MG every other day and at least once a week sometimes twice with Alaska fish emulsion. If you can't stand the smell of fish don't use it your whole yard will smell like fish.I'm probably running a risk of over doing it because I don't follow the directions on the package. I just mix some and let em have it. Seems to be working though.
Well I didn't mean to get carried away and write a book here but you know how it is. Gotta go outside now and see what's going on. Just got in from work and need to check on things in the GH and such.

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