I was reading some old posts and came across one that discussed 'a cutting from the stem before the "Y" can be a tree but a cutting above the "Y" will be always be a bush form'. Is this correct?
Do we assume that the "cuttings" we get are all above the "Y" unless told differently? Can we tell if we have a stem or top cutting? Does it then follow that even if we have a bush, if we get a sucker, that could be a tree form?
And if we cut the stem (from our bush) before the "Y" we can get a tree form? (Whew) I think I confused myself! LOL
(I'm trying real hard here :))
Thanks Ya'll!
Vi
Cuttings, Tree or Bush Forms?
You must never assume Violabird for it makes an a-- out of u and me! LOL. My son used to always say that to me.
I think you have it as far as what you get. However, in the fall people cut down their big brugs and you can get a vegetative piece very easily.
I have gotten great strong and straight brug trees from suckers from a bush brug.
Thanks, Kell!
I know I have alot to learn, but I sure do like the tree forms! It is nice to know that what you do have will be a tree or bush when planting in the garden! Glad you understood my gibberish!
They are my favorite also. The bush ones around here get way to huge for my mini yard. The tree ones are easier to control and I can have more kinds.
I have some tree ones from the flowering region that grew up so tall but Cala tells me they will never branch out on top like the vegatative ones do. I have 2 in fact, 2 different ones, and so far Cala is right.
Alright, dumb question time. They will never branch?? So what will they grow to be? A giant pole? Will they flower? Could you pinch out the top to force them to branch?? Peroxide is on over drive. :)
Well, they are branched, just not growing well or branching well. They have an odd looking canopy. Actually I have 3, I just realized. Perhapes with time they will shape up!
In the past I've trained cuttings from the flowering region into standards (tree shapes) by cutting off unwated growth and keeping one main stem to train (might need to be tied to a cane)!
The end product is a standard brug but with a couple of bumps on the trunk!
Bruno, didn't you just disprove that theory then? Or is it that you just have a short tree? That thread I was speaking of said that the bush form would never get over 3-4 feet tall. (Wish I could find it again, think it was tiG who answered the question.)
I will admit that that's what I did to my first unknown white one, pot and all stands about 7 ft with 2 trunks.
One thing I have learned about brugs is that they never do what you think they will!!! And they seem to grow differently in different places. I do not know what tig meant, but I have bush ones that are 7 feet tall by 7 feet wide.
My Golden Lady is very tall, just over 6 feet and it is from the flowering region. I know for I am the one that cut it from my mother plant. But it sure has not grown a nice canapy. If I were home I could insert its pictures.
Hi VB...that's true if it's left to it's own devices...but it you train them you can hhave any shape you want..LOL...well, nearly LOL!
vi, are you talking about this thread? http://davesgarden.com/t/384100/ I said that 'my' plant won't get taller, not all.
Gee, not even a month ago, see tiG, my OTD is baadd! Thanks for finding that piece my mind again.
So, another part I missed is that a "shoot" off the trunk, can also be a tree. (even if it's from a bush?)
Bruno, even things like Kell's GL's canopy can be "fixed" by training? All this is really great to know, and we can expect the unexpected, too.
Thanks everyone!