can any of yall give me the names of a few of the more hardy brugs as far as winter goes. I intend to take cuttings in this fall but the reality of my space to store adult plants is bleak, would like to get some hardier ones to try to survive outside over the winter even with cuttings. or am I more or less delusional?
gimme some names?
Although you would get very few blooms, you could take a cutting from each and start fresh each spring.
Even the sangs won't wurvive your winter, and they take cold well. That is light frost. You are just going to have to buy a GH!
survived here, zone 7, and we got down to 9 degrees.
Dr Seuss
Solid Gold
Insignis Gold
Isabella
Tequila Sunrise
Gypsy Queen
Jessie Noel
Audrey Hepburn
tiG, my friends in southern NJ, zone 7, had their Brugs come back from the roots this spring. Totally unexpected, and unmulched. Our low was probably 5 degrees. Don't know what varieties though.
These are the ones that DID NOT come back from our zone 7a winter: Candida Double White, Versicolor Peach, Versicolor Orange, Kyles Pink and Ecuador Pink.
I have found that Dr. Seuss is very hardy and comes up a bit faster than the other varieties, but still takes till July or August for blooms.
thanks everyone for the names---a green house would be fantastic but prolly not this year---the new pool pump sucked my wading pool size cash dry :S lolol
Can we start a hardiness chart. I don't have a great deal of time but it is the type of thing I could work on a little at a time. Set up on spread sheet using individual experience instead of mythical zone numbers. Anyone interested in participating just send me an email and I will post the results.
Saw this done with bananas it is was very interesting how people were able to push the zones.
Callalily--Ecuador pink is very slow to come back even in zone 8 with 6-8 " mulch.
Mine have surprised me and have come back, but they have to start all over again and wether they bloom or not is iffy we have a fairly short growing season
I try to over winter all of my hybrids in the dirt outside before releasing them, but Cala is right about Kyles Pink...it does come back from a Northern Florida type freeze, but it does not come back nearly as fast or furious as Dr.D or Amber Rose. I haven't heard if anyone has grown these two further north, but I can tell you they are among my fastest growing versicolor types and all three hybrids exceed Ecuador pink in strength of growth from my experience. My experience with most pure versicolors is that they do not like the cold.
I received a small EP last fall, died back in the pot, and has blooms now, 4 1/2 feet tall or so. Rosamond/pink beauty didn't come back for me but i think i had so much water sorb in the soil that the roots rotted over winter. beccalynn has died on me 2 winters and has not come back.
i have figured til now few that don't come back for me are more to do with the soil/location.
Eric, Kyles Pink is blooming for me, early bloomer, beautiful blooms. this is one i protected over the winter this year.
arlene, I agree that it's not just the temp. I planted three in the ground as an experiment last summer. Two were plain old yellows from a local nursery & the other was called Ms. Anna (background unknown but shows a lot of Suav.) They were cut back & covered with inverted, very large pots full of dead maple leaves. Our lowest temp. was 17 a couple mornings so they should have been fine. It does, however, rain a lot here in the winter with temp. around 40 for several months. We live near Seattle. As of today - 6/9 - only one of the yellows has sprouted. The other two show absolutely no sign of growth. The one that is growing is less than a foot tall & a total skeleton because of slugs. The experiment is definitely a failure. I will not be planting in the ground anymore. It's too wet here. In three winters I have not lost any that I have moved indoors.
Great thread!
tiG, how would you rate those on fastest or best growth? Any earlybirds? First to bloom?
Becca Lynn was the first one back for me,followed closely by Isabella,Species,Solid Gold and Dr.Seuss.I didn't leave any of the Versis outside.All of these now have buds.
I believe it has more to do with soil type than temps.Mine is sand and drains quickly.BTW these weren't mulched.
Sewcrazy and JT, i agree. kind of like gingers like it wet in the summer but NOT in the winter, even when dormant and died back. speaking of gingers, a farm that grows them here covers them with plastic after they die back, to try to keep them dry for winter.
JT, remember how you said you thought it might be lack of micronutrients holding back blooms? I think you are right. I've just about used my back of micronutrients this weekend. I've had small plants, not that well rooted come back from hard frosts in pots.
Gypsy Queen was first back for me, and last year it was my heaviest bloomer too.
Now I've got to go to the gallery and see what Gypsy Queen looks like.
Yep Arlene,it's the micros.Three cheers for manure!
Lucky, lucky, me!
Thanks again tiG!
:) you're more than welcome!