Some of my brugmansia seeds are germinating. I have several questions. At what size should I move the seedlings to larger pots? What size pots? Are the two seedlings in this picture from different species? This was a mixed collection of purchased brug seeds. These were started a week ago, 2-20-03. The other flat, seeds from Farmgirl21, has about 22 seeds sprouting ! Only one week!
Great questions, Padre! I just planted a flat of seeds that I received in a round robin last summer. They are supposed to be double purple. So I too sure could use some information from all the resident experts here in this forum.
Padre, the seedling on the right doesn't look like a brug, but perhaps it's too small. Don't move them until they have at the very least their first true leaves, I try and wait until they have 4 true leaves. I'd only bump them up to 4" pots then until it's pretty warm, then you can use bigger pots.
Lenjo, yours are datura, there is a lot of info here on those, a search of this forum should bring up the answers.
looking good!! i'm so glad my seeds are coming up for you. i always repot to a 4" pot like tig said then when roots take over that pot i put them into the largest pot i have at the time or in the ground. i think this yr i am going to put them into pots in the ground like monika so i can take my trees out and store in hoophouse they all froze back this yr and i have to start over.
Padre good looking seedling. and so fast. some of mine are so slow I am being drivin crazy!! Who are the parents? know?
I'm guessing that the one on the right might be a weed seed from the mix. Hey, maybe it will be a pretty weed. I move my seedlings to 2" deep pots and then to 4" pots and so on. I've gone straight to 4" pots for some this year and they all seem to be growing at the same rate, so I'll by-pass the smaller ones in the future to do away with one move.
Congrats Padre! You are sucked in now! LOL
Congrats Padre, the seedling is looking very good.
Shirley is right, the right one is not a brug.
Hope you will get nice flowers.
MHMmm, may be the soil is pretty wet? If I had a right look at the picture to wet for seedlings.Please forgive me if I am wrong.
Brugroots are very sensitive, they dont like very wet soil.
Greetings Ludger
Ludger, I had the dome over the flat since many were not yet germinated but at your suggestion I have removed it. If I understand correctly the moisture is necessary for the germination but not afterward except in small amounts.
I'm jealous. I've got more pots of brugmansias I've set up in the past month trying different methods I've read throughout these posts. I've tried the paper towel method and removed the coating; the soaking seeds in water for a few days and soaking for a few days and not removed the coating method and after a couple of weeks still nothing is happening. Question - I have some on heat mats under grow lights - some just under grow lights - do they do better one way or the other?
Yes Padre, you are right.
Water and brugs is very difficult to explain, sometimes.
Seeds need it for germination, seedlings are sensitive for to much...large pods with newrooted cuttings and wet soil and so on.To show sensitivity,thats it.Special with brugbabies and young brugs.
Elder brugs in hot summer you can give a lake of water,lol.
daturalady, I moistened the soil and after soaking them for 24 hours I placed the seeds into the cells using a long pair of tweesers. I pushed them just below the surface. I placed the dome over the flat and put them under the lights. My room is about 72F throughout the day and about 68 degrees at night. The lights are on for 14 hours. I bottom watered every third day and misted the surface a few times when it looked like it was drying out. I just now removed the domes from the two flats. Beginner's luck. I hope it holds out.
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I don't think it is necessary for them to have artificial light until they start through the surface of the soil. Might be wrong. Some seeds take longer than others to germinate. I have planted some peeled and some not peeled and can't tell the difference in germination. It might take just a couple of days longer if they are still in the corky coating. Have also planted some that I soaked and some not and still not a big difference. Much easier on the fingernails to not peel them. :-) Good luck. I have some planted in December that have just recently popped. Give them time. Oh yes, heat or no heat....doesn't really matter in our house. Some sitting on the floor came up just as quickly as those sitting on the heat mat. Maybe it was just my dumb luck. :-)
geee Brugie..... I hope you are right. I have seeds all over and only 2 batches have come up and they have had 100% germination rate! I think I have tried every way known to man and a few I made up. The 2 batches that came up were done with no fuss no muss from soil all hte way up to location and heat............... so mayb eyou are right. They are going to do what they are going to do and do it when they decide to do it!!
ok, what is the difference between brugmansia and datura? Apparently I assumed incorrectly that they were the same!
Both are pretty and smell nice in the evening, but once you have had a brug........oh my. Brug blooms can hang straight down or out and anyplace in-between. The flowers can be small, but most are large and the colors are white to pink to red to orange to peach, to yellows. No blues or purples yet. The come in single and double forum. There are several types to, such as candida, insignis, suaveolens, versicolor, aurea, arborea, sanguinea, and I've probably forgotten something here, but close.
Datura blooms look up toward the sky. The colors I've seen have been white's, lavenders, purple, yellows, and creams. I've seen white, purple, yellow and cream colors in double form. I grow some datura, but I don't get involved in the backgrounds. If they are pretty, they have a place in the garden.
I'm sure there are people here who can tell you much more about brugs and datura than I can. I just wanted you to have a quick answer of some kind, as soon as possible.
Brugie, did you see the new brug on Anne Kirshner-Abel's site? It looks up at the sky!
Yes, I did see it. What a beauty. Would love to see it in person. Bad thing about one that looks up is that when it rains or if you water overhead, it would ruin the blooms.
maybe it has drainage holes.......LOL. I was trying to think what my daturas did....... of course here it does not rain in the summer.
