Rothkirch

http://www.americanbrugmansia-daturasociety.org/brugmansia_rothkirch.htm
I know that many of you have ordered this one from NativeHabitat...heres a picture of it. Just wish I could see it clearly. This darn computer...!

here's one of monika's pictures of it, now you really wish you had a better moniter.
http://www.brugmansias.org/images/gallery/Rothkirch.jpg

I like Monikas' lots better, sure hope it looks more like hers'.

I'm on the list ...so hope I get one this spring!!! (fingers crossed)and (Eyes crossed) LOL

I am on the list.Last postcard said delivery in 2-5 weeks and that was a couple of weeks ago.I want this one blooming in time for fall hybridizing.

Hmmmmm,I followed both links.They don't even look like the same plant.

I hope you get your Rothkirch brug starts. I didn't get on the list. Wasn't sure I would live that long.

LOL Brugie................ well, I am on the list and you can have some of the pollen Brugie! LOL I am so optimistic and envisioning piles of fluffy pollen and thousands of special pinks and reds for my pepto garden! I would say I would root one for you but you told me it is hard to do! LOL

Hey guys can you imagine the seed pods we all will have next fall................ and then the seedlings blooming the next season? We all will be knee deep in dark pink love!

Yeh, but like Brugie said, we might not live that long............BUT, since you are only 29, you have a real good chance!

Well if I do not, please someone come and plant the best dark pink you can find on my grave!

kell can they send them into Calif??From Florida I mean?? Just wondering.. :-)

sure..... the nursery just has to be ispected and the plant checked. I order from all sorts of catalogues and there is no problem. If the nursery can't pass the inspections they say right on the catalogue they can't mail to California or other citrus states.

it is funny because I can order tons of fruit direct from florida and even on ebay they send fancy kinds of oranges direct from florida.......... not to mention them at the grocery store..... so I am not sure they are very successful in keeping out what they want to.

Florida has some funny inspection laws.I must be inspected for fireants in order to ship outside the southern tier of states.Strange since fireants don't live in cold weather.
The other inspection (some kind of citrus nematode)is for shipment to other citrus producing states.The problem isn't the inspection,it's the cost.The inspectoress,(inspectorine?) will come and inspect one plant or a thousand all for one price.You just need enough sales volumn to justify the added expense.I have been thinking of having this inspection,and shipping plants,once a month.
That's to Ca and Az in my case.Hawaii seems impossible so far.

JT , News flash....."Fire ants are in Missouri" so they are adapting as they move north..as are Killer bees..and a few other weird critters...LOL :-)

Maybe that is what we found in our yard after all. I remember them from when we lived in Biloxi, but my FIL insisted they didn't live this far north.

Kyle, didn't you say those ants in my garden last year were fire ants? Now we are up to Iowa.

Ordered loooooooooong ago, I am supposed to be #2 on their (NHE) Rothkirch list.
Someone else this forum is supposed to #1.

Guess I better bug them again a bit to be they haven't forgotten me. LOL, but true.




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Rothkirch is a very bad rooter.

I dont know why. May be therefore you have to wait such long?

GL

Monika said the same thing..Rothkirch is not an easy plant to grow or root.Ocre is similar. :-)

okay, somebody send me one of each and I'll tell you my secrets:)

I did not realize fireants had moved that far north.The little buggers are hard to kill.They must adapt well.
As for Africanized bees,I believe Texas,Az and Ca have a few.So far they havn't moved east into our area.They have destroyed a few swarms coming off ships from SA.I guess if they ever arrive in my area I will stop keeping bees.The fun would go out of it.

Get some sugar ants and you won't have fire ants. Of course sugar ants can be aggravating, but at least they don't bite.

gingerlily,
I have both kind of ants...I beleive the only things that gets rid of fire ant is "TNT".

Aren't fire ants the ones that you read about that have gone into windows in nursing homes and attacked some poor defenseless 90 year old lying there and they do not find her till the morning?

WOW! Horrible thought.

Kell,
That's them.

WHAT LIST??? HOW DO I GET MY NAME ON IT???? What a beautiful Brug! Another "must have"!

OK...I have even grossed myself out but I do read at least such story a year................and for those of you that have them.......... whatever you do, do not eat in bed!!!!

TLynn, You lived in Biloxi? Gloria, hear this - another Biloxi girl!

Morning Roz, Yes Mam I did, we were there for about 6 to 7 years, my father was sationed at Keesler. I am sorry I thought I told you that, I know I told Gloria, we talked about what was still there. We lived in the Sunkist Sub, it was brand new then, on Rustwood drive.

I don't think TNT would kill them, just spread them quicker. The govt tried to get rid of them, but it is a fact that what they did actually caused them to multiply and spread. One day instead of seeing a film called 'Planet of the Apes', it will be 'Planet of the Fire Ants'. I've tried gasoline(blowing them up), poison, and anything else I could get my hands on. I have finally resolved myself to the fact that they are going to out live me and if I leave them alone, they leave me alone. This is hard to do if you garden. They especially love building nest in pinestraw mulch. To love the south is to accept the good with the bad.

Glory, I guess they worked out an agreement at your place. All I know is we use to have fire ants, then somehow the sugar ants came along and the fire ants left. Guess they just didn't see eye to eye around here, thank goodness.

Shirley1md,the list is at Native Habitat.They have both Rothkirch and "New Ocre".I don't know what the new in New Ocre means except that it isn't the real thing.Those of us on the list have been there a looooooonnnnnng time.NH is honest about this.They warn you up front.

If Rothkirch is such a slow grower why don't they try grafting some pieces to a faster growing hybrid? Then they could of course air layer sections of the grafted portions.

Yeh, but then they would have so many, no one would want them anymore. Supply and demand.

Eric, Rothkirch is not a slow grower, its a slow rooter.

Grafting to fast grower sounds very good but rooting the RK twigs could be difficult again.

Hope I told this right: You will need a GH filled with grafted RKs to get some rooted RKs...

Hope you are fine!

GL

Yes, but if you grafted Rothkirch to an easy to root hybrid then all you would need to do is to make a cutting below the graft and root the easier growing hybrid that is now carrying the Rothkirch on its back. If you kept the rooted portions of Rotkirch for a time you could then use those for grafting to more easy to root hybrids and continue on like this for some time unit one had a large stock of Rothkirch all rooted on an easy to root hybrid that was also a fast grower. Of course you could also simply air layer a few shoots from the Rothkirch as well so as not to risk losing the actual plant itself. I used to graft varigated cacti to non-varigated cacti as the non-varigated cacti generally grew faster than the varigated. I also used cacti the grew faster than the part I wished to graft to speed up the growth of the cut portion that was grafted tremendously. Any cacti that was prone to rotting from over watering I also grafted to cacti that were much more tolerant of water for a like purpose. The same holds true for Brugmansia. It is the simplest thing in the world to graft Brugmansia. Grafting Brugmansia is extremely easy and if you've ever grafted a cacti of any sort then your already over qualified to graft Brugmansia.

I´ve grafted much cacti.
Always you are grafting a cactus to an other cactus. you never try to root the grafted cactus. Like you told doing with RK.

okay, some one send me an RK and I will try it, I promise!! LOL!!

You are funny, tiG. Eric & Ludger you guys really know your "stuff", hope some of it rubs off. I really want a Rothkirch to live......... if I ever get one.

This message was edited Thursday, Feb 13th 11:57 PM