Welp, just a quick question. Having not followed the brug forum very much...is this a normal-looking stigma? And do they usually come out of a skinny looking flower (female?) like this? And, lastly, when they get this long, will it still be able to accept pollen?
Or am I completely in the dark? (sorry!)
Hi......... looks normal to me except it should have the flower around it....LOL! Every flower has one....no male or female....you just have to look for it. In the doubles it can be harder to find. Is this a CG? Sure looks like one. I see some of the leaves are smooth and some serrated like a CG. So pretty! I am not an expert but I try to pollinate mine as soon as it opens or a critter may get there before you and pollinate with a brug you might not want to be the father. So which one are you planning on pollinating it with?
Shoe, has the flower on that one fallen out? If so, it's probably too late or either someone (a bug friend) might have already pollinated it for you. I hit mine the day before they fully open and the next day too.
Here shoe..I went out and took this pic to show you how low the stigma is placed......nature's way to put it out there to hopefully get pollinated.
Shoe, I think it's too late for that one to be pollinated unless it was done earlier by an insect. I usually pollinate mine the day they open or the following day.
Hmmm...well, this is supposed to be a DS, or so I've been told. I posted a pic of it in full bloom this past summer and someone saw the serrated leaves. (I also remember that some were and some were not serrated, but was told that the leaves dont get serrated untill they get some size on them, that the younger leaves were smooth.)
Anyway, the flowers these elongated stigma's come from are narrow/skinny, and never "belled out" like the others in the pic. They stayed like they were, then this thing kept growing out. Any environmental reasons that would cause that? (Cool conditions, lack of food or light, etc?)
Glad to know Brugs have perfect flowers, or usually do. These long skinny ones seem to be imperfect tho. Take a look:
And here it is "stripped open"...nothing else inside (stamens).
Shoe, isn't that just the calyx where the flower has fallen out? that's what it looks like to my tired eyes anyway.
Shoe,tiG is right. This is the calyx.It is what is left after the flower has gone by and falls off. Any chance you might have missed these blooms?
Pssssssssssst!Shoe check the bottom of your foot for the rest of the flower.LOL
Shoe,
You might want to keep an eye on the flowers that are now open and see what they look like after the flower falls off.
Have a look at this picture. Each brugflower has the long stigma and 5 anthers ( where the pollen are on...)
Brugs are not self fertile, you need pollen from an other brug.
Two cuttings from the same motherplant are geneticly like.
Yeehaww!...That's exactly it! It is the calyx (and po po naked stigma?). And get this, ya'll just made me jump up, go out to the greenhouse in the SNOW (got cold feets now) to get a good look. And yes, the fallen flowers are under the table...FOUND 'EM MYSELF, I DID! Thanks tiG, shirley, and laffing rootdoc.
Glory, I just looked at the rest of the flowers more closely...such LONG calyx on those things. Also found something that looks like a seed pod. Is there a pic somewhere of those?
My mind is now at ease once again. (By the way tiG, why are your eyes tired at 1:15pm?) And thanks for the suggestion to go take another look!
Also, Ludger (or anyone else), if the flowers fall off, leaving the stigma, can it still be hand-pollinated, or has it now lost it's ability to accept pollen? Any idea?
PS...glad I was able to amuse ya'll...I love amusing folks!
Shoe, It's too late to pollinate that one but it looks like you have other flowers.
Look up inside of the calyx. At the beginning if the stigma you will see a little roundish green thing(ovary). That is where the seed pod forms. If a critter pollinated it you will see it begin to grow and the stem that attaches it to the plant will stay green. If it hasn't been pollinated the stem will turn yellow and the whole thing will eventually fall off.
No, its to late for pollination. You must use a young flower for pollination. That old stigma will not more take pollen.
May be a bee did heer yob,lol.
tiG is working very hard for http://www.brugmansias.org/siteindex.html
day and night, I understand her being tired,smile.
Your questions didnt amuse me, good questions for a brugforum I think.
Good luck with your stigmas,....lol
Greetings
Ludger
Shoe, look here It will show you the ovary where the pod forms.http://www.brugmansias.org/anatomy.html
Great info, Snowhermit...thanks. I'll be watching the others.
Ludger, also thanks! So basically this thing is either already pollinated, or I need to concentrate on the more nubile stigmas for pollinating. Gotcha!
Much obliged. Keep smiling!
Oh yeh, PS...there is definitely a seed pod on that plant. My first! τΏτ
Congrats Shoe. Now to find room for all those seedlings you will have. :)
After some months you will have such:
Shoe, great news about the seedpod!!! can't wait to see what you come up with! (a barefoot redheaded brug??)
