These are just a few of my sangs. If you look at the size of bloom and calyx, colour and tendrils, there is quite a variety.
Not all sang blooms look alike
what a nice assortment! i try not to pay much attention to sangs, since i can't grow them.
I have always wanted a red one. Traded for one, three years ago, it never bloomed, 3 summers, this year, what with spidermites and all the bugs, hot/dry summer, I finally lost it, so never got to see if it was really a Sanguinea that I had traded for.
Fogot to tell you, Liz, the big, second from left is my choice, they are beauties!
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Wow Liz, I want that one, that one, that one that one and that one.
Why am I not surprised Hibiscus - it's the biggest one. LOL
Dennis, these are all blooming outside today - the one to the right is my Fuzzy sang x your fuzzy sang. The one beside it is all yours. LOL.
Excellant picture Liz. It really shows the difference of blooms very clearly.
Very nice Liz. I like the smallest one and then on down the line.
Liz,
beautyfull picture, thank you.
Are you really shure that the three flowers at the right side of the pictures are pure sangs?
GL
( I believe to guess some vulcanicola in, my be I am wrong)
You have made Dennis a very happy man Ludger.
If I don't lose it, I have a rooted Vulcanicola. Thank you, Larry.
How can we find out if those 3 are vulcanicola crosses? Oh no, I'm now wondering what I own!
Thought that would get your attention brugcrazy - lol. And Dennis, wasn't this moment worth the price of the daves subscription?
Sorry, Jeanne, no picture of the peach, remember the weight of the pod toppled it off the bench? These are all a mix of mine and Dennis' and mine x Dennis'.
LOL Gloria.........but of course your favorite is the biggest one.................... LOL I just went back up and read Liz's exact post.........LOL.........I should go back and see what Brugie has to say about that........
And Brugie did not disappoint!
So Liz, they all look more reddish than orange. Mine is very orange. Do you have mine?
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No I don't - unfortunately. Do you have a picture of yours? The Kartuz one?
They are all beautiful.
my Kartuz ones have not bloomed................ no my huge one........ I got it maybe 10 years ago, as a cutting from a nursery that was on the property of a luxury hotel on the ocean in Mendocino. it was before I knew they were hard to root........LOL. I had never seen one before.
well then I want one - this is the big monster that you take a machete to?
yes Miss Lizzy.............
the trunk
Awesome! Every time I see that I'm amazed.
pretty ugly!!!
I thought mine had a trunk! My biggest is a sucker compared to that!
I just came down from night skiing, and it is obvious why the west-coasters don't even have cold damage on their sangs. I needed to take my touque and coat off, plus the snow has nearly melted away! I bet one year we will be shocked back to reality, sorry to say!
so fueautiful......
Liz, they look wonderful and I am glad that you have them all blooming right now mid winter. Not that I like to be contrary to anyone else *lol* I prefer the slender flower no. 2 from the right as I have never seen this shape before. It seem like the narrow part of the tube extend down to the edge. Its special *lol* Good its not a versicolor doing that *lol* Imagine 50 cm long flowers only 1 cm broad all way down and so that broad candidalike edge. :) Do the slender one have a name?
Ludger, you have sharp eyes. *lol* Their shape is close to vulcanicola, that has a narrow edge and not so much backwards turning edge. However I thought they were x flava`s - because of the only one slit in the calyx. x flava get this calyx opening from arborea. I will have to study the vulcanicolas more. Thanks.
Tonny
Tonny,
flava looks more similar to arborea,not to vulcnicola.
Vulcanicola has a very special flower it comes through if you cross( cook ) with them
GL
I like to cook a few vulcanicola`s with sanguinea and arbores, but I don`t think I wanna taste the stew. *lol* I guess you are right about the three on the right that these are vulcanicolas or at least hybrids. I saw a few pictures posted in a botanical magazine and they were different from sanguinea in that the flowers started to be a bit more narrow just before the edge. Here sanguineas are straight. Still it puzzles me that sanguinea and vulcanicola is not regarded as subspecies to the same species or ecovarieties? B. versicolor for example have a broad variety of different apperances and so has aureas, but still vulcanicola and sanguinea is regarded as two distinct species, even tho they looks very similar. Well, not to complaint of course. I like the narrow intrepretation of the species concept, but not so narrow that I would say that Ida and arborea was two species tho :)
Is there a way, to identify vulcanicola and hybrids, from number of stamens, calyx, or something else?
The flower on the far right has been my favourite sanguinea, I would really like to have it ID's correct.
Dennis
Dennis,
a hybrid between v and s you never will identify exactly.
Beside you know parents and grandparents.
Example: You have a Sang X Vulc and most children will propably show much from Vulc. Some of this seedlings you cross with sangs, some with vulcs, some with arborea and some with flava. Both ways: Mother and father line.
Either you will have a breedingbook where you can write down all hybridisationways or you start to guess: This flower looks more similar to vulcanicola but the colour is more sang and so on. Hope I will not bring you in trouble,lol.
One reason why I ever will have some pure brugs.
GL
Liz, are you sure the second from the right is from me? I think mine is a little fatter, and red a bit further up corolla. If I only had a scanner!!!!
Kell, do you grow your B. sanginea right next to your other Brugs? I was under the impression that they were more suseptive to virus's and so have tried to keep mine away from the others.
Jerodsmom,
I wouldn`t mind growing my sanguineas near to other Brugs. Many of the virus stories and plants dying from virus are not always what they seem.
I imagine that some will disagree with the following, but nevertheless, I am not trying to generalize or to extract some golden rules, but merely want to share, what is in my field of personal experience :)
For once, growing them in a too cold environment will cause them to grow very slowly, but what Brug would not? Many cases of yelloing leaves and leaf spots are many instances mal-nutrition or directly starvation symptoms. Sanguineas are very heavy feeders and have a special need for extras of chelated iron and magnesium.
Cold temperatures in combination with heavily rainfalls (or overwatering) can also cause another symptom that would make most Brug growers cry aloud: VIRUS!!!!!! Stemrot *lol* When a sanguinea uptakes more water that it can evaporate through the leaf pores the stem will in last instance crack up a bit and then there is an opening for fungus and bacterial attacks, but these ain`t virus, so they can be battled down again easily.
Currently Lene and I grow nine different sanguineas in the winter garden. Last year we got some from somewhere in Northern Europe and they didn`t look good. All the symptoms, that would make even the most casual grower say virus. I must admit that I tossed a few, but we kept the rest and those are looking like a million $$ this very moment. We grow them in high air humidity and about 37 *C during the day and between 11-14 *C during nights and they reward us fullhanded for it. Since February till now most of them grew from nothing but bare stems to between 20-50 cm loon shoots and most of the nine plants Y`ed last week. An exception is x flava "Gelber Engel". Some of the Y`s are on shoots no longer than 5 cm tall *lol*
Here`s a photo of the sanguinea corner taken the other day during morning coffea.
You've got quite the sang forest growing there Tonny. 37 degrees? How are you supplying the humidity?
Yes, they grow like they were grass *lol* Some buds are already ½ cm long and developing fast. Last year I was close to toss every one of them out, but I am glad that I didn`t I thought they were deadly ill, but they just needed a little more heat and heavy loads of fertilizers.
Both the temps and the humidity part is easy enough. We simply let less air in.
I constructed it, so that is cheap in heat too. The last month we had only lit up in the wood stove for a couple of hours every evening. The heat from the winter garden did the rest. Usually we would have lit up in the morning and fired tiny bits of woods during the day and then fired much again in the evenings.
Here is a sanguinea from Horticult7 via Rich Sanders. Last year they developed very slowly, but here`s already large shiny leaves and they grew 30 cm since last in February.
Shame on me! I thought you were talking celcius. 37 degrees is 98.6Fahrenheit. So you meant 37F?
No wonder they look so healthy. LOL
OH NO Miss Lizzy..........you are talking Celsius to me again...............
And look who is back.................LOL
LOL Kellinka, celcius! OH NO!
I remember when reading Bristols account about Brugs in the Sibondoy Valley, that there was a picture of a sanguinea growing by a barbwire fence and all loaded with flowers and fruits. Now, the valley are not the place you wanna be wearing cap and gloves *lol* The locals probably wears not much else as boxer shorts and maybe a t-shirt most of the year, so I thought the answer to make the sanguineas grow optimal would be to half fry them *lol* ... and it seems to work. The next thing I wonder is, if they keep the buds on, until blooming time :)