For those of you interested in knowing how large of a cutting you can root. I have attached a picture of a Jessie Noel that I just potted up today.... it's the tall Brug in the picture...more cane then anything right now but it did root. I cut this cane from one of the Jessie's I had growing out in the yard....there were no roots on it back in mid-November.
Wow! I should have known, when I had the large CG. I am glad that you learned me this. I had the CG rootbound in the ground and no pots when it got cold. Next year I will try this. I will also see, if Brugs can make it through the winter here. We arezone 7(probably b). Do you think they will have a chance, if I plant them deeper next season? How deep can I plant them?
Tonny,
According to the plant zone maps you are about the same as northern Ga, Ms and Al and they can all leave Brugs in the ground for the winter....give it a try...at least with one or two.
The climate is a tiny bit cooler where I am, apposed to Jeanne and Liz, but it is around 8a, and mine will not survive outdoors.
Once a CG came back, a tiny shoot, but it didn't become anything special.
Some people I once knew here used to dig trenches and bury the whole brug, then mulch on top and there were no troubles.
But remember we get rain, rain and more rain, and that kills some plants that normally can withstand even colder temps, but the wet roots and cold wet air cause major damage. My D. wrightii 'evening fragrance' come back but they do best from seed.
The brugs left out at my house are still alive, but they are almost finished, and we have only had about 5-8 light frosts.
Gee I do not know Tonny. Good luck though!
SO Glory, I was airlayering mine that were over 6 feet and that was great. But I still have great big ones left that I want to grow as alley trees or actually give away. If I try to root them with out airlayering the trunk always wilts halfway down. Yours does not look like it wilted at all. What is your secret?
Great Gloria. I kept all the big woody tree stalk cuttings you gave me and all have rooted. The largest is about 4' tall and larger than a silver dollar in diameter. I did take longer for the thicker stalks to root and start growing leaves. Oh one of the Becca Lynn cuttings you gave me has no leaves growing yet but does have a bloom pod growing LOLOL.
The large (tall) ones I am trying to root seems to be rooting 50/50.Some are getting roots and new leaves,some are shriviling.I'm gunna wait to see for quite a while,give the shivilers a chance......
Glory- I did the same thing, only as a joke. I took a cutting as tall as yours (with the top butchered off) and stuck it in a vase for my husband. He ALWAYS rolls his eyes at my cuttings ALL over the house.
SO in I come with this BIG monster cutting, took out my best vase and plopped it in there- smack in the middle of the kitchen counter. Since we recently moved and I'm still bent out of shape at leaving my last garden he new not to make a comment. I left it there for a week- he finally said something about it. To the tune of we have company coming- think you can move your bean stalk- LOL....
I let him in on the joke and was going to cut the monster up when I pulled it out of the water and found roots had grown. Stuck it in some dirt and it's growing with the usually brugmansia determination. Nerver would have guessed that could happen. My instant standard!
Kristi
I did a lot this size when I cut back in the fall. Monika says to tie a clear plastic bag over the top if there's a lot of wilting. The bag will hold the moisture around the tender growth and give it time to make roots. It worked well for most of mine - I had about 15 seedling brugs I cut like this. There was probably 3 that rotted and I threw out. The rest look like they'll be okay. Only a few have leafed back out and the others just look like they're dormant. I don't have a real lot of sun in the house so maybe they are.
Tonny, do not give up! Susie has them come back for her, and she is i think zone 6b, so if something special, give it some time. you might also go ahead and dig something up if special, put the roots in your winter garden and water! mine survived temps of 16 two winters ago. well, it was only one at that time, the doc.
Dennis, i am wondering if it is the damp soil where you are rather than zone, as i am 8B, almost 9. of course it is too aggravating if they don't come back til late in the season. i dug up a few this fall to protect.
some that i didn't think did well staying in the ground last year i am going to experiment with, fertilizer and micro nutrients, to see if i can get them happy earlier this year.
Kell,
I believe the canes on this Brug are to hard to wilt..there wasn't a lick of green on this Brug cutting.
Donna,
I have a couple of cuttings doing the same thing and it does look funny....no leaves and one or two blooms.
Hummernut,
Don't you have some large canes you are rooting too...let's hear how yours are doing.
I have rooted 4 and 5 foot canes also. Have not had any problems. I think the hardwood like Gloria said are very easy and trouble-free to root. One that is partially green is different and they will wilt on me just as some of the smaller ones do.
I stuck two tall canes in a jar of water because I was out of rooting room! THey are doing fine and have roots forming. I also left mine in the ground last winter (only had a few) and they all popped up just fine. Will see what happens this year as each winter is different here as far as how cold.
OK Glory, I will go out and look. But I bet mine has lots of new green growth on the top third. I just looked at yours again and it is all hardened off. I wonder why mine do not do that? Maybe the colder weather will do it.
Kell,
Mine haven't been in any cold weather yet....they are in the greenhouse. Maybe they harden up here due to the high humidity.....just guessing....I have no idea. Anyone want to answer that question for Kell?
Weeds,
I still have 5-6' brugs growing in the compost...the frost got the leaves but the canes are fine and putting on new leaves. I'm going to leave it there for the winter and see what happens to it.
Sorry for this being so long a post.
Glory gave me what I considered rather large cuttings around the 1st of Nov. I do not think you would have mailed these, 4 to 7 foot cuttings. Let me start out by stating how I rooted these cuttings. I wrapped the bottom with sphagnum peat moss, about 2 hands full, that I had soaked in water and squeezed most of the water out, then wraped with plastic, kind of like doing air layering. I put the cuttings in a container to insulate the wraped bottons, actually a cardboard box. I also did this to other cuttings that Glory gave me that were from 6 inches to 2 feet in length. Do not ask me why I chose to root the cuttings this way, since these were the first brug cuttings I have tried to root. I decided to try this from all the post I had read on how others had rooted cuttings. I have never liked rooting things in plain water as I feel it creates weak roots, my opinion. I let them stay this way for 2 weeks before checking for roots. To my surprize, the longest cuttings had formed the most roots. I decided to try and help them form more roots, so I injected a solution of liquid root stimulus to the sphagnum, just enough to keep the moss damp, but not dripping wet. I left the cuttings wrapped in the moss for another 2 weeks. I got more roots. Time to pot them up. I removed the plastic and potted all in a mixture of 1/2 soilless potting, 1/4 peat moss, 1/4 perlite, added Shultz 3 month time release fertilizer. And watered with a liquid root stimulus. I put the larger cuttings in 3 gallon pots and the smaller cuttings in gallon pots. I have to assume that different varietys develop at deferent rates, given the exact same conditions. All have developed new growth, some more and more quickly than others. Out of 30 something cuttings, I have lost 2, one to rot(the smallest cutting I had, I'm sorry Glory, but OLD GLORY died) and one to me not tying the plastic to the stalk very well. Actually, I must have separated the stalk from the moss and did not notice it for a couple of weeks. By then it had completely dried out. Still trying to root it, but I do not have a good feeling for it. By the way, these have been keep in an enclosed environment at approximately 60 degrees F. They normally would receive 4 to 6 hrs of indirect sunlight a day if we had not had so many cloudy days. No artificial light source has been used for growing. I'm hoping to get some early blooms from these cuttings. I will post later about which varieties have developed greenery first and may include some pictures to show growth and size of cuttings. Both small and large cuttings had some dying or roting tips. I used an entirely different method for rooting mostly green tip cuttings that I got from Frannie. These I put in a mixture of soiless poting mix and perlite. I put all in a single container spaced 2 - 3 inches apart. The container was covered with plastic and the cuttings was pushed thru the plastic into the rooting mix. I kept this on top of my freezer for 3 weeks until some of the cuttings had formed new growth and then I potted these up the same as the larger cuttings. All of these tip cutting were 6 - 12 inches. I lost 1 to rot(coral glow). Several died back to the last node above the soil level but have put out new growth there. Also I had gotten 2 cuttings from tiG earlier, P&C and Isabella. Both started out developing good roots, but the P&C roted, the Isabella is doing nicely. Will update later.
This message was edited Monday, Dec 30th 3:59 PM
Just bumping this to the top.
