Sniff-Sniff... I only have to dig a few out of the ground and the ones I did today weren't too bad to get up. I've been air-layering the seedlings that have Yed. I'm starting to think that might have been a dumb move. Once I cut the tops off they'll still need to make some roots and I don't know if I'll be able to let them go dormant ... or if I should keep them growing for a while. Do you think they'll keep growing roots while they're dormant?
Do not know if you mean the air layered pieces? If they have formed roots in the moss, I would keep them growing. Only the well established plants/roots out of the ground can safely go dormant. Hope this is what you meant.
yes - that's what I meant... and that's what I was afraid of ... *groan*. I air-layered them because I was so anxious to see the flowers. I'll never be able to bring them all in and keep them growing. I wonder if I took the moss off some of them tomorrow and let any new roots dry out ... would that work? Lol!!
I don't think that would hurt anything Sue. It is still attached to the main plant, so the only thing that could happen is that the roots would dry out and fall off. You might even want to cut them off and maybe powder them with some fungicide. Just a suggestion.
Oh boy - I have to think about this. DH is gonna kill me if I bring in 40 some-odd brug trees into the basement! I just wanta see the blooms before I sacrifice them to Old Man Winter.
Poppysue, I'm in the same boat. I've got most of the ones I'm keeping in the GH. They are losing their leaves and flower buds from the change in temps.I've still got lots in the ground that I won't be bringing in and they are full of buds. Some only need another week to open. They've never bloomed so I'd like to see what they are before they are frosted. Fingers crossed the frost holds off another week.
I would try to cut off some of the limbs with buds on them. And stick them in water. I know it has worked for me with CG many times. The flowers may nnot grow as big but they do open! You have nothing to lose if you are going to leave them out to frost anyway.
I may have to do that to some kell.
PS and SH, i would sure give that a try. i had some cuttings 3 feet tall bloom in water a couple of months ago.
I think I'll try that too. thanks for the tip...
Bringing to the top per poppysue's mention of this thread in sbarr's "My First" thread :)
I also intend to start digging soon....
So Sue did you get to see your blooms before frost took them or did you bring them all in and are now dead and you DH in jail?
WHEW! I thought this was a recent post. You guys had me scared!
The smaller buds dropped off when I brought them indoors :(. The ones that were closer to blooming did so outside before frost ( just a few). Several of the seedlings with Ys I cut off at ground level and rooted them whole ( that worked okay but I did loose a couple).... and I dug & potted the bigger ones I wanted to keep.
And then.... I sent out 70 some odd cuttings of seedlings that I didn't plan to winter. I hope that I'll be able to see blooms from them on the puter one of these days :)
This is a Isabelle x Butterfly that opened it's first flower last night. I was hoping it would be pink this morning.... but it's not! I think this is one that I dug up and potted. They lived the winter in my plant room upstairs.
Just look at that foliage. Not a bug bite. and a beautiful bloom too.
This will be my first winter with brugs. I've been wondering what to do with them all. I also have a room upstairs that can be turned into a "plant room." Please send details on how to care for them.
Every time I hear the "C" words (culling and compost), my heart just stops. I understand why those of you who are hybridizers (with hundreds of seedlings) do what you do, but those of us who are just beginning would love to rescue some of the rejects.
Poppysue,
Did you send me cuttings last year? I have a few brugs starting to bloom that I'm going to post when they do. Here's a link to one that I'm trying to figure out what the species is. I wrote "Insia" but I think I may have misread someone's hand writing.
Link --> http://davesgarden.com/t/394028/
You mentioned you'd like to see pictures, but I can't recall exactly who sent me what. Everyone is too generous here :)
Speaking for myself, I will send cuttings of already named plants, but not cuttings from seedlings that have not been named or are not good enough to put out to the public. There is no sense putting more out there that already look like something that is named. It just adds to the confusion. Even if I get a pretty seedling, but it looks so close to something that is already named, I won't put it into circulation. Might not get rid of it and will use it for hybridizing, but it still won't go to the public. There are way to many un-named brugs making the rounds now and each person would like to put a name to them and would like to know the background, but it is almost impossible to do that. Just one more reason for not sending seedling cuttings or named cuttings out without the proper information with them.
I understand, and I've grown out lots of seeds this year, none of them have bloomed yet. I do enjoy the seed starting process and have been keeping records. What information do the hybridizers most want? I've noticed that some of them get the hang eaten out of them, while one right next to it won't be touched. Is this information useful?
I think most want to know if it is tolerant of hot weather/wind, resistant to bugs, good pollen donner, sturdy in stature, length of time the blooms last, etc. Fragrance is interesting to know about as well. Anything that will establish whether it is a good brug/bad brug. Oh yes...color and tendrils are something to make note of too. I'm sure there are other things that make a good brug but I'm typing off the top of my head now. Each brug does not have to have all of the qualities to be a good brug. There are just things to look for. In Iowa, I like something that can take the heat/wind, is resistant to mites, and holds blooms for several days.
This is my first year too, so I'm thankful for info on the best ways to overwinter my new friends. I only have a few so far, and only one has Y'd, so I don't want to lose them. if they can come inside in pots, I have room for them, but I'm worried they will be too warm in the house with the heat going all winter. Should I put them in a dark room with the heat vents closed so it will be cool enough for them to go dormant, or would it be better to keep them growing near a window?
Carena, any chance you could share a picture of your Y'd brug? I'm trying to understand exactly what a Y is verses just another branch? Does that make sense?
Also, why are "Y's" good? You can see how new I am to all this...
Morph, I would love to but I don't have a digital camera so it will take some time to get the pics back. Someone more experienced can explain it better (and please correct me if I get something wrong!), but brugs won't bloom until after the tip of the main stalk splits in two, and grows into two stems (so it looks like a Y). Then the bud will start right in the crook of the Y. and then both tips of the Y will Y again, and you will get buds there too.
Carena is right about how the growing tip splits. You will be able to tell it is a Y because you won't see a place where new growth emerges from the main trunk, it just becomes part of it. Sometimes you will get a bud right in the Y, but many times you do not. I did have a cutting this year that budded right at the ground level. I do believe the cutting had been taken from the flowering region and so it had already come from Y'd area. Sure was funny to look at.
LOL at imagining a flower so close to the ground... Thanks for the explanation all! Now I think I understand why it is better to get a cutting ~ so that you'll get blooms when it matures the next season. Is that right? If so, I am much clearer on this "Y" thing now...
One exception, though. Did y'all read in a recent Discover magazine that the Y chromosone is slowly deteriorating in most species including humans? Okay, I know that's a different conversation, but the "Y" reminded me of that.
Morph, I think you might get blooms quicker by taking the cutting from the flower region, but you won't necessarily get a taller plant. Either way they should have blooms. I think weather and soil have a lot to do with whether the plants bloom the same from one year to the next.
Morph, I have a note book that lists who got what of the seedlings I sent out. They all had numbers with them. I think you may be in there but I'm not sure. I'll dig it out and let you know.
Thanks, Brugie ~ that will come in handy when I can't keep everything I had received as "seedlings/cuttings"? I will need to select the ones I really like and probably distribute the rest as cuttings.
Poppysue, when you say seedlings, do you mean cuttings?
Yes, they were cuttings from seedlings that hadn't bloomed yet.
K, Morph. You are not in my book for seedlings... but I do think I sent you some cuttings from the named plants I had. Insignis pink was one that I sent a lot of out.... so it could have come from me. My plant originally came from tiG so either way it's Insignis pink. Here's mine last night.
Sue- I have two of your seedlings. Have them labeled with a metal plant tag. I let you know if/when I get some buds.
poppysue, I have 3 plants going, one is Insignis Pink. No Y yet, that I know of. (I to am new) What are the strings with the tags on for? Looks like you are tagging each flowers. George
I bet Sue has pollinated that bloom that is now gone. She marks it with the pollen donor name and date.
Sue, doesn't the water ruin the paper tag?
Such a pretty pink flower Sue.
Yes, it's beautiful! Thanks for the photo, Poppysue. When tiG showed me hers, my jaw literally dropped. This particular variety is just beautiful IMHO and I'm so excited that I'll be able to enjoy it!
Morph, that's Liz's picture, it's just in the gallery. I think you'll love it:)
Mmmmm.... Is the gallery the same thing as the plants database? I found some good pictures listed under Angel's Trumpet 'Insignis Pink'. I don't think that's where you meant, though, or is it? I didn't see a picture in there from Liz. I feel a wee bit confused...
Kell - my plants come in for the winter... remember!? The tags last fine for the time they're out. I did have problems last year with the pen I used fading on the the daylily tags but the paper holds up well for one season. They're cheap too :)
it would be the same brug Morph:) a good bloomer.
