I received a proposal for a trade from a couple who knew that I have been wanting a B. sanguinea. But, when she described it, it didn't sound like a sanguinea to me at all.
In four years without pruning, it has grown to only six feet. But the strangest part was when she said that the flowers opened white, then developed a peach-colored rim. She knew that this was atypical and had wondered if Park Seed had made a mistake when they sent their initial cutting. She also wondered if the color might be affected by intense southwestern heat.
I've been interested in sanguinea for its unique redness, which I will have to tell her. But, does anyone have an explanation for this one? Is there a shorter versicolor peach hybrid of sanguinea? Could the heat be changing the color?
As much as I love the red of sanguinea, my greenhouse will accomodate plants only up to 8-10'. Does anyone know of a shorter sanguinea hybrid that has kept its color?
I know it is a high altitude plant, making me think that it would be more cold tolerant, but, possibly intolerant of the heat of Alabama summers (7b). Does anyone know its specific heat and cold tolerance?
Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge; I am still very new to brugmansias, though I've accumulated a dozen or so this summer.
A Peach-colored Sanguinea? A Short One?
it probably won't make it in our heat Rik. I haven't ever seen a sang mentioned that opened white, though.
I am now struggling with the concept of bringing in 37 sanguineas for winter. Plus, I have at least 9 sanguinea seedpods slowly maturing.
They don't start out white. EVER.
Rik, think this is mislabeled. you can get almost anything you want here, even a sang if you trade with a northerner. but be prepared to lose it just in case. :)
I would start you a sang PlanterRik, but mine is more orange than red! I would have to root it for you, I think all the cuttings I sent out without roots died before they could root. They love it cool.
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Good for you Kell- outstanding! And these I know are in your garden.
how do you know Miss Lizzy?? These are not very big flowers. How big are yours?
Rik - listen to Kell, she grows them in her garden like other people grow marigolds. NoCal. What can I say, the perfect climate.
Kell,they are so gorgeous!
Do they grow in a tree form or like a bush?
Gee CC, I do not know what you would call it. A giant bush? how does one define each? It has a single trunk kind of, so does that make it a tree?
The first picture I took recently right after a heat spell and some of the flowers had come out all yellow which is unusual.
please post a picture Jeanne!! I would love to see all your sangs!
Do you create the peach one? and the different red one? Which by the way looks huge. What fun is this a private showing!! Don't you love this new feature of putting hte pics in thh threads like this?
Keep them coming Jeanne! l love them. THANKS
Kell, a couple of years ago I went crazy ordering sanguinea seeds from everywhere I could get them. The peach one came from T&M, the skinny red from Native Habitat, the fat orange from Pure Land Ethnobotanicals I think. I'll check my records for you. I've crossed most of them so will have lots of seeds in 8 months.
Are most of those stores in the US? I have seen NH's website but not the others.
So is Liz's sang the one that Tonny is in love with and mentions frequently? It is lovely!! I wish my different ones would bloom so I oculd see their flowers. They have Yed but no buds in sight!
Yes, Liz's sang x sang is the one that Tonny likes so much. It's beautiful. All of those came from the US. Thompson and Morgan usually doesn't have the brug seeds correctly ID'd so I was really lucky with that one. Do a search for the others, you can order sanguinea seeds from them usually. But Pure Land Ethnobotanicals other brug seeds were incorrectly labelled.
I ordered sang orange seeds from Native Habitat this year - they're not on the website - you just have to ask for them. They germinated really well too.
They are breath taking. Every time I see a picture of a brug with a tree full of blooms my mouth just automatically forms an OOOOO and this plant is no exception.
Brugcrazy, Please post as many as you like! I adore sangs and love looking at the pictures. Is there any way you'd consider sharing cuttings from the ones captioned "a different red" and "Liz's sang x sang"?
I know I shouldn't even be trying it down here, but I can't stop myself! Maybe I can container-grow them outside in the fall and spring, bring it into the airconditioning during the summer and put it in an underheated greenhouse for the winter(?).
No offers to rescue this forlorn tree in OK? I guess I'll try to get them to send me as much of it as they can, then. Though I already have a couple of versicolor peaches. Who knows? If Kelley has a sang that opened yellow after a hot spell, and you have peach sangs ... maybe this one would straighten out in the right situation.
NEXT KEY QUESTION: Is anyone aware of a low-growing sang hybrid? I've read that most sangs are Big Trees, which I can't accomodate in the greenhouse. (BTW, I have a couple of 8'-10' potted loquats that are available to a good home with a greenhouse taller than mine or in a warmer climate [pick-up required]). Maybe I could winter sangs outside with the chop-&-mulch method .... ?
Rik sad.
I just found this thread again. Rik, I hack mine back every month by at least 1/3 or it would take over my yard. It responds well and quickly to a hatchet job so you can easily keep it shorter but it does get as wide. Here it may get light damage to the very top leaves in the worst cold we have so it actually may live where you are outside in the winter if in sheltered place.
A friend of mine grew one in a pot in Florida and it did great.
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THere is a peach coloured hybrid of Sanguinea called MOBISU. This is an european hybrid obtained by Mrs Mosiman in Swiss. This hybrid is more heat and virus tolerant than B. Sanguinea. Here is a picture that I picked from the site of Anne Kirchner-Abel in Germany (http://www.kirchner-abel.de)
Georges
But you live in Marbella - will it grow in your hot dry climate?
kell, where are you from? I'm wondering if I could grow a sang here in South Carolina.
I really want that sang cultivar called 'Inca Queen'. I've even convinced the BF to let it live inside his house year-round, so it can have A/C. Anybody know where I can get one?
Judith, does Kartuz have it? I think I bought Inca Princess from him.