Still a SICK PLANT

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

No fancy backgrounds here - this one is in quarantine. This is Perlmutt x Ecuador Pink. I've been spraying it with Kelthane for a month and a half every 2 weeks. If I hadn't seen the original leaves I'd say this is what it wants to be. It's about 4 feet tall. You asked what happened to it - cala - does your's look like this? The skinny leaves are very green, none dried and crispy looking.

Thumbnail by Liz
FSH, TX

What do you think the possibility is that some hybrids are more sensitive to chemicals than others? Very interesting to say the least.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

That is interesting. Do you live near a nuclear power plant?? J/K Mine looks sort of like that, not nearly as tall. It's got the weirdest limbs, all bunched together with skinny leaves.

Newnan, GA(Zone 8a)

but this one did have big leaves to begin with right??

FSH, TX

If it stays like that and the flowers are pink...could be the worlds first pink Culebra. Too bad no one in the USA will be able to get one.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Eric, if my seedling is pink, we might have one already here. I'll take a picture tomorrow. I cut some of the crowded branches off to see if it would grow any better, didn't really help.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

No nuclear power plant, no acid rain, no chemicals when this started. Just clean ocean air. I started spraying after someone said it might be mites. What can I say? Do I carry on with it? Don't you wish you hadn't ask how it was doing?

FSH, TX

All I can say is you may just have the most valuable new seedling for this year and perhaps the next few years as well. Still in awe.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

Don't get me excited Brugman, I'm too old. I've been treating it like a sick plant. Do I continue treating it like a sick plant? Maybe it is Kelthane addicted by now. This is Monika's seed, or at least seed that came from Monika. Maybe she's seen this before - she'll probably say mites. But I cut off all the leaves when it started, sprayed with Kelthane because we don't have abamectin here, and as you can see, it started branching with these skinny leaves.

This message was edited Saturday, Sep 7th 12:02 AM

FSH, TX

Maybe the Kelthane mutated this one or perhaps it just helped a mutation that had already started along? Were the leaves this distorted or mutated before the application of Kelthane. I undersand they were slightly mutated looking before, but this is dramatically different....Who knows, you might have a tetraploid Culebra. All I can say is that is definitly much different than any chemical reaction I have had with my Brugs. Albeit, I generally stop spraying them for a while when I over due it and notice distorted thicker leaves and such. How are your other seedlings reacting to the Kelthane and are they being sprayed as frequently as this seedling?

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

The first picture shows it starting to produce the narrow leaves - it was being fertilized at the same time as all the other brugs. Probably twice a week. The Kelthane was applied maybe 3 weeks after it started. As many of the brugs are in close proximity, all brugs have been sprayed since, at the same time. None are looking like this one.
The leaves are roughly the same thickness as culebra leaves.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Liz, this plant has no mites! It grows and thats quite good, since you posted the first picture, I would say, its might be a mutation like Culebra or Munchira. But you have to wait another year to see, if it doesnt change his mind again and gets back to normal.

Could it be possible, that my letter, containing the seeds, underwent a treatment, like x-rays or others, during delievery, just for precaution? And this is causing the mutations of your and Calas seeds?

This message was edited Saturday, Sep 7th 3:07 AM

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

I don't know Monika about the X ray. But other people are growing plants from the same seeds and appear to have normal plants. Also, the other seeds in the package - at least mine anyway, appear to be growing as expected.


I remember, that there were some discussion about the US postal offices would use a sort of X-rays that would kill plants and seeds. I think, that Datura stramonium f. quercina (quinde-leaves) are such a plant and can be re-produced from seed of healthy plants by exposure to X-rays.

Newnan, GA(Zone 8a)

the x-ray thing never got off the ground unless you live right around Washington DC. I have 7 full grown plants and one teeny tiny little thing that's wanting to be repotted today I think!!!

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Therefore Liz, I would say....lets wait for the flower! Have you tried to root a cutting of it?

Tonny is right by saying that the Sibundoy - Indians selected their Brugmansias by leaf and flower mutations.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

No I haven't tried rooting it yet. Thinking it was mited I wasn't even sure it would root. Will a mited plant root? I guess I better try - the usual methods?

Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

tiG is right. The only mail getting x-rayed is the mail going into the government buildings.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

Don't forget - these seeds came through Canada first - when I got mine, then they went to the US.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

A mited plant doesnt root. And the leaves quit growing. They will be and stay hard, glossy and brittle.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

Well the leaves on this one are flexible and appear to be normal except for their unusual shape. LOL - so I'll try rooting. They are all green shoots though - so do you suggest I plant in a sand/peat mixture?

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

As long as the mixture is poor of nourishment and lofty.
Its a very interesting plant, Liz.

Newnan, GA(Zone 8a)

I sure hope mine grows up to be like yours Liz!!!!

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

Gosh! No pressure here! LOL


Liz, no pressure. Just grow and enjoy :-)

Snow, then I can forget all about mailing all these lovely Brugs to President Bush. *LOL* Even Butterfly will be converted to culebra, before they are let in through their mail control system.

*LOL* Maybe I should name one of the coming hybrids after our Minister of State and get him mortally hooked on any Brug and then have him to addict Bush as much as we know we are. Then Bush soon would re-write any laws against Brug import difficulties in order to get his quick. LMK, if you think it will work out to the best for all. *LOL* Imagine Pentagon and the Danish Christianborg as immense Brugmansia gardens and people no longer ask our leaders political questions, but "Can I get a cut from this? Can I get a cut from that?" or "I have Frosty Pink, but I always wanted to grow Culebra, so Mr. President --- can I drive it once through your mail system. *GG*

Post a Reply to this Thread

Please or sign up to post.
BACK TO TOP