No picture to go with this, but tonight I made this cross and the other way as well. Am going to find out if these two are actually the same plant or not. Have to say, they look exactly alike. I think Kell might just need a Golfito to go in her Pepto garden.....In any case, I see no need to keep all of the look alikes just because they have different names. I can't have 4 or 5 of the same, almost exact in color, plants. Real Estate is too valuable. :-)
Isabella X Golfito
Thank you Shirley! Somebody had to do it I guess.
There's another that's been bothering me - anybody have an Insignis 90-95? And an Isabella? They sure look the same to me - at least from the picture on KA.
Well Brugie, before long we'll all know the truth about the two of them. Good luck.
LOL Brugie............ I have Golfito.........Glory was very instrumantal in giving me my pepto garden.......LOL!! And tiG helped just so she could diss me later!
Liz, I have both 90-95 and Isabella. 90-95 has a much larger flower, leaf and stalk that isabella.
Had to bring this one back up to say that I think we are looking at twins. I did not get any seed to set on either plant from the twin's pollen. Looks to me like, unless conditions kept the pollen from taking, that we have Isabella and Golfito that are one and the same. Someone else might want to try this to be sure, but Isabella always seemed fertile up to this point.
Brugie,it makes no nevermind to me, if they look so much alike you have to cross them to find out. glad i didn't do the golfito thing. thank goodness too floridan and FDH are coming back for more! dee too, i'm going to give her the whole plant of one she wanted cuttings from, she just doesn't know it yet. i'm also glad i started thinning in june!!!!!
Yes, you are way ahead of me now. I have a couple of people who are going to dig some of mine. If there are any left in the garden, I'll just cut them off, and the plow can roll the roots for me. Can't dig those big ones when I can start them from cuttings. Besides the two of Eric's, I'll only be keeping a couple of the others, like P. Beauty and Suess. Oops, forgot Maya. Have to keep her. Everything else is already in pots.
Shoot, my brain is fuzz tonight. I'm not keeping the big plant of Maya either. Have a cutting rooted and that will be my brug for next year.
I'm doing the same. Look a likes and I don't knows are going.
what's the biggest size cutting you have rooted? I have a couple with branches that go everywhich way. I'd like to select a big straight piece and root it and start over. Can you root something that is 4 ft tall?
Liz, i've been thinking the same thing and thinking about air rooting, brugie's seemed to get roots really fast. i'm wondering about using spanish moss....
I'd do the sme thing except I'm running out of time for air layering. I don't want to bring these ones in for winter and wait while they put out roots. Ideally, I could take a big cutting and root it and shred the rest of the plant.
guess i'd better try to wake brugie up, she said it was fast, but i've never done this!!!! need to figure out what to do cause i'm not gonna buy sphagnum moss.
Liz, you know, i bet if you took most of the leaves off you could root 4 foot cuttings!
Arlene,just plain garden dirt will work.The disadvantage is that it's heavy and can weight down smaller branches.Probably a combo of moss and dirt would be perfect.
Could you use straight peat moss?
The ones I have with multiple straight trunks I just hilled the soil up around the trunks,they root great!
I don't plan on airlayering this winter J, but I have about 6 huge, and very sloppy, Grimaldis. They are not coming in again. Just in a bucket of water? Is that what you did with Ernestine?
try equal part of peat moss and perlite. the peat moss will retain the moisture, while the perlite will loosen the mixture and allow roots to develop properly and move freely. i've always use this formula in rooting cuttings and growing seeds. it only failed me when i have the tendency to over water LOL!
I have 2- 3 foot pieces I am now rooting in dirt. I have rooted a few 4 ft pieces also. What I have found is that the tall ones will bend over in what may look like a death droop. I water the soil very well before I stick the cutting in it and then not again until the soil is dry. The tendency is to water the pot more when they look so droopy but do not for that will rot it. I just ignore it until the dirt looks dry. Only then do I water it. If I find the urge to mother it is to strong to ignore, I will set my hose on mist and mist the leaves quickly and frequently but not so much tha that soil gets wet. I have it in complete shade so it does not dry out quickly here. After a few weeks all of a sudden I will notice the plant is now standing upright again, the leaves rehydrated and I know it has put out some roots.
Liz, I stuck Ernestine in a bucket of water and left it for about 6 months. Remember the roots on it when I gave it to you. The CG's will be fine in a bucket of water, they're indestructible. I'm going to put 3 of my large ones in the garage for the winter. If it gets cold, I'll just put a heater in there. The ones I left out all last winter are budded out and will bloom in a few weeks. They Y'd at 2.5-3 feet after coming back from the roots. Probably leave them there for another year.
Jeanne... just curious here as i have not done soaking brugs in water for that long. don't the water get moldy in that length of time?
i had one brug labeled pink brug. i left it outside last winter. it died back. when the weather got warmed, it came back to life. it is now 3' tall and profusely blooming. it look like Isabela to me. LOL! another pink one! i have surely inhirited Ms. Kell's pepto garden *giggles*
You have far more patience than me J - I want mine to bloom earlier in the season than this. So won't be leaving anything out.
By the way - you really should pick a better name than Ernestine. She's sounds like a fuddy duddy. I really didn't mean to stick her with that name forever you know. Have you decided that she's not an Engelsglockchen?
that is true Jeanne, I have left CG in a bucket of water for several months and the roots they put out are are massive. However I wonder if the roots are of the same quality as those grown in dirt. I do not know. I will say the CG actually formed buds and bloomed in the bucket.....LOL............they were smaller blooms but it did the entire process in the bucket. I just emptied the bucket the other day thinking it was not to smart as mosquitos can lay there eggs in anything that has water.
If I were you Liz, I would just cut off a few of the longest pieces and do a test, some in water, some in dirt! CG makes a great alley tree.............. my only one.......sad but true!
I am doing airlayering only on the ones that I know are hard to root right now. The sangs and my vulcanicolas.
Thanks Jeanne :)!
Brugie,
Is Maya the one that grows faster than Peaces and Cream, but also has peach flowers?
Joyce, that is the one.
Thanks Shirley, I took my side branches off the bottom of P&C to see if it would grow any faster...boy its slow! It grows the vegetative branches faster than it grows taller. I rooted 2 eight inch cuttings from it already and the original shoot is still less and a foot and a half tall.
gosh, mine is huge and the pieces I cut off mine are already huge. But it seems to attract something that is eating holes in every leaf!!
Kell I'll bet mine won't bloom for at least another 2 years at the rate its going!