Arborea??

I will take a better picture tomorrow. This is the one grown as a seed marked aurea x aurea Rothkirch. Cute isn't it?

That looks like arborea to me. Well - what the heck do I know! It is cute. The leaves look like they're very fuzzy.

I like it,and they all look so big and healthy....and lots of buds

Liz, What a pretty flower. I really like this one.

Gosh Liz, another pretty one from Van. BC. I do like the looks of this one.

Very pretty and so healthy looking.

Cute RK-mix. *LOL* I like it anyway. When I glanced at the picture my first thought was, "How the hell did Preissel manage to steal "Ida"? Well, maybe he can turn into a bee too. Then it would make three of us. *LOL* Joking, of course. Ida has the same type leaf, just as massive and velvety and all too large. Other arboreas I have seen has rather small leaves and not so dark, but in return a little longer flowers. Is is almost a paradox to me, that the cross says something with RK. Both this one and RK has the same trait. Too large leaves. *LOL* Liz, if we cross it to Ida we will have an outstanding Brug with 4# flowers and 3 meter leaves. *LOL* DreamBrug, that is, if you are up to hide and seek. I can imagine the implications of a dream Brug:"Crawl under it, when you need a rest during day. WE GUARANTEE, that even if someone looked for you under it, they would never be able to find you".

Liz, don`t think, that when I say your plant is a true arborea or arborea x arborea, that it is a conclusion of the lines above. Now I could use a your arborea x Ida to hide under and get some good nights sleep. Thanks for posting. :-)

Looks like arborea to me too! :-)

gee Liz, it took you long enough. Did your DH have other plans for you??

No question; arborea!

Do you think this is a wild arborea or a hybrid? I've read that the wild is self fertile and the hybrids mostly aren't. Can I pollinate one bloom to another to help it along? I've already got sang pollen on the first.

Would be great if you could do that and then I'd have to beg for some seeds. I want an arborea so bad, but if it isn't to be, you will just have to post pictures to keep me happy. This is one I had ordered from LBJ. Well, we know that isn't going to happen. :-) I'm not upset anymore because some of my great DG friends have helped me with all of my order except Tiara and Angel's Dream. I think I prefer the singles anyway. Sure are easier to pollinate.

I think its wild. The leaves are way too large for a cultivated species or hybrid. Ida was a cross between a probably wild and one of unknown origin from the Sorø area. Ida inherited the huge leaves and is highly self fertile. I think yours are too.

Its now a cultivar, not wild anymore. I am just surprised that such a mistake happens in a botanical garden. This way, Liz, you got new genes for the sanguinea project.

So I can pollinate it to itself?

Yes if it hasnt done this already by itself.

Monika,
If its a cultivar will the seeds come true to the mother plant?

Liz, mine should open soon, I wonder if it's an arborea too.
Was really hoping for Rothkirch. Oh well, arborea #3 will do.

arboreas are self fertile but the seedlings often differ from each other in shape of leaves and/or size of flower.

Ok Monika thanks. I thought that was the case. Off topic with regards to arborea. Now I'm going to be excited to see what comes on Liz's fuzzy sang x tomato leaf sang. I should get a range of colors and leaf textures then...how exciting it will be to grow the seeds!

Listen to Brugcrazy.............#3 will do !! You are so spoiled girl!!!

Liz, I just checked my Aurea x Aurea Rothkirch and one has totally different larger shiny leaves that are serrated. Maybe it's something different. The rest all look like arborea leaves but I have to wait until they all bloom.

If it's any consolation brugcrazy - Paul's arborea looks different too. Leaves are smaller, still very velvety but much smaller. So maybe his is a hybrid.

If its self fertile than why is it so hard to come by?

I have one more arborea question. I've read that the seed matures on arborea in 3 months. I've already crossed sanguinea to it (flava - Jeanne!!) Will it mature in 3 months or in the 9 it takes for sanguinea?
And I'm not apolgizing anymore for it being arborea Jeanne - my sangs finally have someone to play with aside from each other.

We're getting closer to that flava by the day. I sure wish the bud on mine would open. The buds seem to be taking their own sweet time.

So Miss Lizzy......come out come out where ever you are........... LOL....I know where you are....... but come play with us for a minute..........
what happened to this plant? Did you get sang pods on it??? Did the seedling from said pods grow yet???