well Cala told MaVie a long time ago that it was tiny caterpillars (or worms) that hatched inside the buds that was our problem. Well, I sprayed today with Ultra Fine, hadn't used this before. After a couple of hours, I was out taking off old leaves and such, and noticed tiny worm/cats coming out of the tops of some of mine. Not all, just a few plants, but still, I'd never seen these before. and they were coming out of the very top of the plant. Hopefully all the buds I have now will stay, it's getting late in the year, and though it hasn't cooled off yet, the nights are a bit cooler.
How often can you use Ultra Fine, and if I've seen these once, should I spray again soon??
found part of my problem
TiG,
I've been picking those little critters out first thing every morning along with earwigs and now spiders.
joydie, these aren't the brown ones you can see, or even the all green ones I had earlier. I get those too every morning, and it does get old. These were tiny, teeny tiny, and I tell you, I've examined every speck of my brugs, and have never seen these. I can only figure they were inside a bud or leaf or something, and the Ultra Fine drove them out.
TiG, dipel will work too and is a bit residual. Be careful with the Ultrafine oil, but glad you finally found the problem. Something ate a big bud off Enchanted White last night, I was so mad!!!
should I not use it again?? If I lose all these tiny buds cause of it, I'll scream again!!!!!!!!! LOL!
is there a brand name for dipel??
it's Bt, Dipel is the name it's sold under here.
gotcha, thanks
Glad you found the problem Tig. Be sure to spray those cuttings as well just to be on the safe side. If I notice an infestation of any sort on a brug I tend to go and spray all of my brugs just to be safe. Bayer Brand systemic rose insecticide generally works great for me. But in your case a spray was definitly in order.
for little wormeys I use BT. I mix up a gallon in a hand sprayer and as soon as I see damage I spray where the damage is. It works great!!! I also keep the same gallon for weeks and its seems to work fine even though diluted for so long. I have lots of wave petunias so I am quick to spray at the first sign of eating but I never have to do the entire plant if I am johnny on th spot before it spreads. I notice they like to eat the brand new brug leaves on the very end of the branches. A few squeezes on the trigger and they are gone.
I use neem oil or ultrafine on my roses to discourage mildew. It suffocates so maybe the thingies abandoning ship on Tiggle's plants were gasping for air!
She has a way with words doesn't she?
not to mention how smart she is!
I guess this proves that BT can go bad, kell. I used the Bt I had last week or so, and nothing happened, so I'll pick up a new bottle tomorrow.
I found some kind of small funky looking bugs chopping off my buds and I sprayed with malathion (did I spell that right?) because it is close to my pond and wouldn't hurt fish...haven't seen them since!
i do not know tiGems, mine is a few years old in the bottle but only weeks mixed in the sprayer. I wonder if the wormies are too far down in the bud to even know you are using BT on them!!! Ultrafine oil would seal them up I would think..which may flush them out........ i think BT works by having the spray where they eat. where is Ma Vie when you need her?? So maybe it works best on outside wormies............ munch munch
tiGems?? LOL!!! you're gonna run out of them soon!! I used freshly mixed Bt, but they might have been too deep.
I like to read her replies just to see what new names she has come up with.
Watch Calla,she'll start calling you callasilly
No, never.........but I have been playing with slice and dice.............. ice................ needs more work..............
You all are a hoot. :)
I'm now afraid to even comment - you're here earlier than usual Kell.
why? because of slice an dice.....LOL........does sound kind of brutal huh??? but that is Cala's favorite past time......... luckily for all of Dave's!
tiG, so glad you found the problem. I hope now you will get lots of buds and flowers.When the northern Brugs are all sleeping for the winter we're going to need to see pictures of the southern beauties so we won't go through withdrawl.
have lots of teeny buds again, sure hope I can keep them:) nothing would give me more pleasure than to give you pictures to feast your eyes upon!!
what did i do or not do??? am here LOL.
Kelley u better put a plug on naming people. u crack me up. my stomach is beginning to hurt from laughing.
i got some help around my brugs since the sprays does not work. bird i feed, are now picking the cats off the brug's leaves. i still could not find BT around here.
btw... tiG, what is ultra fine. sorry for sounding too ignorant, i just do not know. what is it use for?
I am sending you package out Monday MaVie with a bottle of it.
thanks Kelley :)! did u get ur package today?
oh i did not want to tell you the sad story!! The postgirl that is covering for our usual one did not bring it back today!!! Hopefully tomorrow! I have them sent to work on purpose because there is always someone there........makes me so mad!! but thanks for wanting to surprise me!!
i am sure it will reach u one way or the other. keeping my fingers and toes cross for u LOL!!!
Slice and Dice??? Has a nice ring to it doesn't it? I have to admit though, I've been using Arlene's method of cut and stick!! I took cuttings yesterday and just stuck them in a pot of potting mix.(I even used clippers to take the cuttings!! what is this world coming to) We will see!!
gee I do not know Cala, cut and stick does not have the same ring to it!! Hi Cut and Stick! Hi Slice and Dice! See what I mean. I guess we could call you Stick!!! Cut would be a little too weird.
Arlene's way works! Try it you will love it! and the best part is the cutting is already in dirt so you do not have to shake it all up getting the sand off and repotting it up in soil. I have always used clippers.......what did you use? well actually I have been known to just snap off the piece...............but never with my teeth at least with brugs! LOL!
Now you know how us lazy gardeners garden!
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Kell, the scientist in me is rebelling big time, but the gardener in me loves it!! I took more cuttings today, with the clippers!!(I was good though, I dipped them in hormone and stuck them in steril cups of vermiculite) The Belotii and Edulus passifloras I stuck in pots of dirt are starting to root. I just chopped them off and stuck them. Hee hee, this is fun!! Slice and Dice aka Cala
Slice and Dice aka Cala
at her best!!!! i am sending you some slice and dice material!!! a thrill
Kell, I found a seedpod today. Guess what? It didn't have a slice in the side and it was ripe!! Can you believe I actually missed one?
Cala, watch out you may lose your new moniker!!!