Not the best pic of L'Amour, Tonny

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

The light was too bright, but the real color is seen on two flowers on the left side. The plant is a woody Y - cutting from last year and its first flush of flowers. It is still in a little pot, 1l size.

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Monika,
It's still beautiful!!!!

Bodrum, Turkey(Zone 10a)

It is beatiful Monika!!!!!

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Thank you both. I dont know, if it was the light. The whole set of paper pictures turned out to be bad. Maybe the film was to old. I bought it last year!


It is truely beautiful, Monika. Are the flowers on the backside of the plant in full color and the others newly opened?

I will go with a flashlight and see, if mine has changed more lol Until now the color hee are more like the Rosalie and Rosalita`s on the Gommers site and Little Corella by Kirchner-Abels site. I wish now, that I had bought them all from you lol Then I didn`t have to ask, what is what :-)

Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

Such a beautiful color and a good bloomer by the looks of it.

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Number 1 in my book. Love this brug and your picture looks great.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

All flowers have the same rich color, Tonny. They opened almost all at once.
If you have it from Gommer, you know, the dutch nurseries use all kinds of chemistry for faster rooting and growing. even though, some of them deny it. Maybe your plant needs more time for recovery. Gommer send me rooted cuttings from Golden Lady (turned out to be Ecuador Pink) last year and some others. They had excellent root balls but refused to grow for almost six weeks while my own cuttings had doubled their size. I think, rooting with hormones can exhaust a plant for some time.
Gommer seems to have doubled his prices with the currency change.

Beautiful picture Monika. Just love the colour of L'Amour.

Angleton, TX(Zone 9a)

Simply lovely.


Yes, Monika Gommer and another Dutch Brug. However, I think I have soon learned my lesson well. Do you remember the rose hybrid and the white with aurea and suav. genes? I feel like I have had them forever, but they have nearly not grown an entire inch. There have been flowers, beware! But not much growth.

Well, the lesson is never to buy important hybridizing stock from anyone using chemicals lol Will the seeds of my crosses be influenced by the growth reducers used on the mother plants?

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

They have influence on the growth of seed pods but I dont know, how much. I will find out for you. All I can tell, that friends (nursery people) dont use growth regulating hormones on their mother stock, used for crosses.

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That was, what I was affraid of. Reduced fruit size and maybe growth difficulties in future generations. Do you know any, that don`t use these on their plants for sale?

About the effects on seeds ... Thanks for investigating this for me, Monika :-) I will be all ears, when you post, what you have learned.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8b)

I thought the growth inhibitors and enhancers were just temporary. No? They may be permanent?

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Now Monika tells me after I dipped ALL my cuttings in rooting hormone! LOL

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

They are temporary Liz, but they depress growth for one season. These plants are much more sensitive in that time.


But, that IS great news, Monika! I will take extra care of these sensitive plants in their first year and tell them, that their twilight sleep will soon be gone lol Funny also about spring flowers and summerflowers ... the one I calle orange aurea had almost tubular spring flowers, but the summer flowers has a distinct, very broad aurea limb and very long whisker. An entirely different shape :-)

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Spring and fall flowers can differ much from the summer flowers. All descriptions are based upon summer look.


I will take note of that and only use summerflowers to describe the plants. Thanks :-)

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Brought up againto compare

rural, WY(Zone 3a)

At school we did an experiment using different dosages of growth regulators. If the correct dosage was put in, the plant would be fine after leaching the soil, or a small amount of time, like a few weeks. Plants that were overdosed became stunted, some growing tips/buds died too. Maybe these operations are not reading the labels!

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