Lets try something this season......

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

How many people here have scanners? We can scan an adult and a juvenile leaf from each hybrid and put into a data bank for reference.Then people can identify their own plants when flower color is known.Proper labeling is critical to the future of brug hybrids. So is good record keeping of any crosses you make...be sure to securely label each cross. :-)

Newberry, FL(Zone 8B)

Gooid idea. i didn't really understand the pollinating part, having seen brugman do it, i feel pretty good about it now. figue i'll make my tag to put on when i do it. almost every plant that bloomed ended up with pods via moths/bees, some plants every single flower made a pod.

Milton, FL(Zone 8a)

Good idea.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Good idea. I have a scanner. I'm doing better this year about labeling the pods as to the pollen parent.

Angleton, TX(Zone 9a)

I have a scanner and would be glad to participate. One question - - what is considered a juvenile leaf?

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

I have a scanner.

Rapid City, SD(Zone 5b)

I have a scanner - but no brugs to scan yet, hehehe.

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

Monika..have you noticed the veination pattern of aurea leaves as opposed to say..suaveolens leaves? The aureas seem to have parallel veins...where the suaveolens types have random veins in the leaf structures.

Hamilton, Canada

Kyle,
Bull's eye!! I think this is a much needed structure. It provides the ability to post various forms of new crosses. I would suggest that the pictures be posted against a white background. At some point in time if the photos are taken against a white background (even a piece of white bristol board would do) they could be used in a e-book form someday.
The e-book could be easily done through the International Brugmansia Hybridizers Association. The e-book may well make for a good fundraiser...just my 2 cents worth.
Joydie

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Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

I noticed it and I tried to used it in identifications.
Every plant has a certain pattern like we our fingerprints. But I had to learn, that soil, nourishment and the micro climate has much influence in texture and veination of a leaf.

During a visit, Mme Blin and I stood beside a Rosalie shrub, having no buds or flowers at that time. Looking at the tag and touching the leaf, I asked her real sceptical, if she was sure, that this was Rosalie.

The leaves had the dark color and the form, but felt like being thin and less pubescent. It was Rosalie, no doubt as Mme Blin sended later pictures of the same shrub, full in flower. The leaves of all my Brugmansias are much thicker, more velvet, pubescent or hairy as at other places. I must admit, that we here have found not one distinctive mark on our plants to identify them, when grown under different conditions. Only Crosspollination has been yet foolproof. I will make a closer check of the leaves of each of my plants this year, make pictures and notes about the veination and will take them with me next time, I visit Mme Blin and a retailer, I know.

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

Monika...isn't this FUN??? LOL More work..... :-)

Gulfport, MS(Zone 8a)

RiseAnn, it is time you get some brugs. I can send you some cuttings, rooted cuttings of some Glory gave me. Some of them are seedlings. Email me if you want them. Roz

Gulfport, MS(Zone 8a)

Wow, RiseAnn, I have been gone for a week and I didn't realize everybody is giving you brugs: that is so much like this great group. That's how I got started, and I am more than willing to give anybody some, just like I was given brugs. P.S, take my advise, take Kyle's Sunray, it is truly a unique brug; mine hasn't bloomed yet, but the leaves are stunning on mine; just huge and very serrated. Very different from some of the others. Also, try Jessie Noel, if you don't have, I'll send you one, it is a really tough one for me. Also, my Sunray leaves are a lighter color than some of the others. It just stands out in my greenhouse. Can't wait til it blooms.

Rapid City, SD(Zone 5b)

Roz - everyone in this forum is so great! I have had offers from several of the folks here for cuttings and I am looking forward to spring.

I am being cautious because we are still having very cold temperatures - it can be 65 one day and well below freezing the next and I would be so sad if any cuttings were dead on my doorstep when I arrived home from work.

If only I had waited to get interested in Brugs until after the last frost date....I PROMISE I will stop whining now and wait patiently until May :)


Eclipse, I have a scanner and I think you got a splendid idea :) I don`t know much about Brug leaves yet, but I can distinguish between my 12 different ecovarieties of D. meteloides and distinguise these from my D. wrightii`s too. I use leaf color, shape and veneation to do that and both you and Monika is right, that we got to learn to do so with Brugmansia hybrids too *lol* A splendid idea :) I put up an example (Datura ceratocaula, though).

Eclipse, I also have a scanner and think this is a great idea. I have so many different brug leaves right now, a lot from crosses, some I'm not sure about at all. Sounds like a great project.

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