This is about all I can contribute toward the discussion of identity of Chs vs. Suess. My isn't this fun....just like Frosty Pink/Ins. Pink all over again. :-)
This plant is JO from Glory. Had to kinda stand on my head to take the picture. It is getting pretty tall.
I have a Dr Suess for sure.Better guard that plant with your life Shirley.It seems from reading the posts there's more Dr Suess out there than there is CG. LOL
I've caught some of the threads but I think I've missed some too. Can we spell it out right here? ... so I can figure mine all out.
My plants ... labeled as Junter Orange have serrated edges. Is that wrong? My Dr Suess has smooth edges. And my C.Grimaldi has smooth edges. What's wrong and what's right?
Oh - and the solid gold has serrated edges too.
From what I can gather your Dr Suess is really CG/JO
Your JO is really Dr Suess.
Dr Suess has serrated leaves and CG/JO are smooth leaves.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
my dr seuss has smoth leaves , my soild has serrated leaves, what I thought was Charles G has serrated leaves
Brugie..this one is charles Grimaldi.Congrats!
Oh and the debate on Frosty pink VS Insignis pink.......Frosty pink is a white flower with a pink edge...Insignis pink is an all pink suaveolens hybrid.
I have a pic of Insignis pink (all pink) on the Vicki Harding site.Also on the NHE site
I am going to post a picture of Pink Favorite, a hybrid of Herrenhausen in a new thread. It grew and flowered only very well in warm summers. The old plant is now in Italy and its new owner crazy about the flowers.
Thanks Kyle, though I wouldn't have had it right without your help.
Kyle ,please ,oh please see if you can identify these two http://davesgarden.com/showthread/61120.html and http://davesgarden.com/showthread/59079.html I'm pretty sure they're suavenolens , I don't think the pink is frosty pink.Someone sent me a frosty pink and it seemed much lighter collored.
Crested Chik..the first is Frosty pink..and the second is a white suaveolens type.All brugs are yellow the first day they open.Then by the following morning they change to the final color.
You all have really gotten me so confused...*^^%#@@%%& My poor brug is just sitting there and sounds like all the others!
I'll tell you what I am going to do...I will call the nursery where I bought it and find out what it is...just for names sake!
Happy Bruging to all!
Rebecca, they probably won't know. Didn't Kyle say yours looks like CG? check back, I think someone named it.
Kyle,Calla or someone had a picture of a pod from frosty pink,my pod didn't look like the same pod as they had.My white and pink both have had pods and the pods were exactly alike.So if mine is frosty pink then theirs wasn't.OK all you pod pinchers.who had the picture of the frosty pink pod that was kinda round?
Here you go CC, btw when it isn't so slow i'll link you to my isabella, confirmed isabella! nice plant.
http://davesgarden.com/showforumphoto.php?imageid=6713
Crestedchik...different pollen parents can determine the size and shape of pods on the same plant.suaveolens hybrids have a tapered pod wide at the shoulders and have a medium to long taper to the point.
Arlene,I was talking about a picture someone had posted before of a frosty pink with pods.Kyle ,you're saying there can be 2 pods on one plant and depending on who the daddy was they can be completly different shapes?The pods I saw on a frosty pink here where roundish and short.My pods have all been kinda long and tapered.
Arlene,I was talking about a picture someone had posted before of a frosty pink with pods.Kyle ,you're saying there can be 2 pods on one plant and depending on who the daddy was they can be completly different shapes?The pods I saw on a frosty pink here where roundish and short.My pods have all been kinda long and tapered.Here's a shot of the pod. http://davesgarden.com/showthread/127919.html , so if I had pollinated with something else the pod would have looked different?
CC, that picture is of FP pods. I thought it was going to be Isabella until I re-read the post.
CC, the link i posted was for cala's frosty pink seed pod. you had asked for a pic of isabella on a thread, here's a link below. this is a definite confirmed isabella by brugman and more. the seed pod is distinctive, flat. i am curious about how the seed pods change with a dad.....i did see that on one of monika's, but brugman i thought had said you can id with seed pods. anywhere here's isabella
http://davesgarden.com/showthread/118230.html
She is a pretty one, Arlene.
thanks brugie. CC, i think the frosty pink are relatively short and kinda like isabella's pods, but not as flat.
Yeah but if my plants a frosty pink,and the pod didn't look like a frosty pink pod, did the daddy effect it???My pod looked like a suavenolens pod
Arlene, I thought that plant(and fuzzy photo) looked familiar!!
I've also noticed that seeds from the same pod parent, but with different pollen donors, germinate at different times and also the seed leaves look different.
I'm pretty sure most of my Frosty Pink pods looked pretty much alike except for some being longer.
Cala, i didn't notice any difference in my seed pods, each plant's seed pods looked the same. i am confused. did you notice any difference in your seed pods besides FP being a little longer? i swear i thought brugman said the final plant id was what the seed pod looked like. would like to understand this better.
Arlene
All the FP pods were shaped the same, with a line down one side, just some were bigger than the others. The CG pods were completely different as were the suaveolens pods. Jean Pasco pods were like GIANT FP pods and EP looked like long skinny okra pods(sort of) and were about a foot long. Has this helped? I'm not good at describing things(guess you can tell I didn't do too good in "Technical Report Writing")
Cala, all my jean pascos looked the same, all the versicolors looked the same, all the dr suess looked the same, all the isabellas looked the same. if seed pods look different because of different gene pools, what does it take to make this show up and would you only bother with the seed pods that looked different?
Arlene, the seed pods looked the same, except for some being larger than the others, but the little seedlings were different. I don't know if others do, but I planted everything(except for some I sent out and the white suaveolens). What do I do with all the seed pods from my white suaveolens? Will the seedlings all be white?
They probably will, Cala. Thats my experience. If the pollinator was colored and there is a color gene in the white suav., there might be a colored brug, chances 1;100.
Monika, I don't think there is a color gene in the suaveolens. I think it's a "species", and I don't really like it, but keep it for customers who what a "cheap" white brug!!
That's the way i thought it was. i am wondering, Eclipse said seed pods could be different on the same plant. how and why does this happen????
