This is one of three that I grew this year. I gave the extra seeds to tiG. Just a picture to compare. I think mine look like Cala's. However, I've got to get my eyes checked one day soon too......
Another Sang. Pic.
Brugie - that looks a little more like a sanguinea to me. Although mine have some definate points on the leaves. Where did you get your seeds from? Mine came from valley grow. I also have some of the seeds from Rich's project. Those ones aren't doing as well though.
*lol* It looks fine to me :) How long since you sowed it ... the wavy leaf edges will be more conspicous in the next leaves to come, until they are typical sanguina-style :)
I lost some of mine from the sanguinea project here the other evening :( I left them out in - 2 *C after a sunny day. Lost two after some hours and several was bended due to frost damage on soil level and didn`t make it ... however, you could say, that these have now been tested for cold tolerance *lol* I hope the rest make the heat testing I plan for them this summer :) That is what the project is for, - to create the heat standing ones :)
I hope, that we all end up with one and two for our florida growers *lol* That might as well happen :) I am very optimistical there. Remember, that the sanguinea seeds are from a tree, that is self fertile. When that can be, a heat tolerant seem to be within reach too :)
Sue, Mine came from Banana Tree Farms. They germinated very well. In fact, every one that I planted came up even though I only ended up with three of the six. I thought I only planted 5 of them but surprised myself. Five went to tiG. I don't know how hers did though.
Tonny, I was afraid you would ask me that. I think I told you that I'm not good at keeping records. :-) I just pulled the tag from the pot and I was right....poor record keeping. Sorry to hear that you lost some of yours. Is there no chance that they might come up from the roots?
OK folks, I have 2 little seedlings and am not sure what to do with them. They have a 3rd pair of leaves coming out. My question is should I pinch them back to encourage better growth or just let them be. They are doing pretty good, just not sure what to do next.
Dee, just let them be.
I just want one of you to hybridize a nice red arborea and cross that to Rothkirch for me. We can always work on getting a double from that cross later....
*lol* I will try, Eric :)
I have planned on crossing Ida to sanguinea and vulcanicola and will see, what come out of it. I will also attempt to use the lilac x flava as it has also strongly reddish color in it. A red or pink arborea will be perfect and I hope one of us gets it and succeed in crossing it to RK or just a bridging hybrid (it just has to be there!!!) and then start crossing to RK :)
In Datura section stramonium and section Dutra doesn`t normally cross, but by adding D. leichhardtii to one of the parents, they will do so easily. I know, there is a Brugmansia bridge. It could be one of the hybrids or a natural species variety, no one yet have thought of using. It could also be a species yet not discovered :) A Brugmansia leichhardtii *lol* I am in to start looking and trying :)
Tonny,
I must confess I had thought that exact same species would be a great bridge plant and one could make impossible crosses with it. I never acted on that hunch though as I don't hybridize Datura. Glad to know my hunch was right though...makes me think to check my hunches more often. By the way...all of my hybrids I have personally given out are very fertile both ways...its one of my requirements...even my DxS hybrids are....I don't like a hybrid one can't breed with or that doesn't pose any use as a breeder at least one way. Perhaps the bridge cross will be one that is made with Brugmansia...ie arborea x suaveolens will be able to cross to aurea and then back to either arborea or versicolor...one could then cross those together...or perhaps flava x arborea to aurea x suaveolens x versicolor x (suaveolens x arborea)....just rambling as always...but I am not going to give up on that type of a cross....I imagine the vast majority may be sterile or very unfertile, but that is something we can work with and if we each grow up a few thousand of those crosses surely one will have the ability to set seed or produce good pollen.
