Another Sang. Pic.

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

This is one of three that I grew this year. I gave the extra seeds to tiG. Just a picture to compare. I think mine look like Cala's. However, I've got to get my eyes checked one day soon too......

Thumbnail by Brugie
Westbrook, ME(Zone 5a)

Brugie - that looks a little more like a sanguinea to me. Although mine have some definate points on the leaves. Where did you get your seeds from? Mine came from valley grow. I also have some of the seeds from Rich's project. Those ones aren't doing as well though.


*lol* It looks fine to me :) How long since you sowed it ... the wavy leaf edges will be more conspicous in the next leaves to come, until they are typical sanguina-style :)

I lost some of mine from the sanguinea project here the other evening :( I left them out in - 2 *C after a sunny day. Lost two after some hours and several was bended due to frost damage on soil level and didn`t make it ... however, you could say, that these have now been tested for cold tolerance *lol* I hope the rest make the heat testing I plan for them this summer :) That is what the project is for, - to create the heat standing ones :)

I hope, that we all end up with one and two for our florida growers *lol* That might as well happen :) I am very optimistical there. Remember, that the sanguinea seeds are from a tree, that is self fertile. When that can be, a heat tolerant seem to be within reach too :)

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Sue, Mine came from Banana Tree Farms. They germinated very well. In fact, every one that I planted came up even though I only ended up with three of the six. I thought I only planted 5 of them but surprised myself. Five went to tiG. I don't know how hers did though.

Tonny, I was afraid you would ask me that. I think I told you that I'm not good at keeping records. :-) I just pulled the tag from the pot and I was right....poor record keeping. Sorry to hear that you lost some of yours. Is there no chance that they might come up from the roots?

Chipley, FL(Zone 8a)

OK folks, I have 2 little seedlings and am not sure what to do with them. They have a 3rd pair of leaves coming out. My question is should I pinch them back to encourage better growth or just let them be. They are doing pretty good, just not sure what to do next.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Dee, just let them be.

FSH, TX

I just want one of you to hybridize a nice red arborea and cross that to Rothkirch for me. We can always work on getting a double from that cross later....


*lol* I will try, Eric :)

I have planned on crossing Ida to sanguinea and vulcanicola and will see, what come out of it. I will also attempt to use the lilac x flava as it has also strongly reddish color in it. A red or pink arborea will be perfect and I hope one of us gets it and succeed in crossing it to RK or just a bridging hybrid (it just has to be there!!!) and then start crossing to RK :)

In Datura section stramonium and section Dutra doesn`t normally cross, but by adding D. leichhardtii to one of the parents, they will do so easily. I know, there is a Brugmansia bridge. It could be one of the hybrids or a natural species variety, no one yet have thought of using. It could also be a species yet not discovered :) A Brugmansia leichhardtii *lol* I am in to start looking and trying :)

FSH, TX

Tonny,
I must confess I had thought that exact same species would be a great bridge plant and one could make impossible crosses with it. I never acted on that hunch though as I don't hybridize Datura. Glad to know my hunch was right though...makes me think to check my hunches more often. By the way...all of my hybrids I have personally given out are very fertile both ways...its one of my requirements...even my DxS hybrids are....I don't like a hybrid one can't breed with or that doesn't pose any use as a breeder at least one way. Perhaps the bridge cross will be one that is made with Brugmansia...ie arborea x suaveolens will be able to cross to aurea and then back to either arborea or versicolor...one could then cross those together...or perhaps flava x arborea to aurea x suaveolens x versicolor x (suaveolens x arborea)....just rambling as always...but I am not going to give up on that type of a cross....I imagine the vast majority may be sterile or very unfertile, but that is something we can work with and if we each grow up a few thousand of those crosses surely one will have the ability to set seed or produce good pollen.

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