I got this in a trade, it's a Euorpean hybrid (GASP!) and I was really looking forward to watching it bloom. I don't think it'll get there. Check out all those nasty lumps!!! And what the *^#@ is that yellow liney looking stuff?!! Dear Lord, what is this that so besets this plant? Tell me!! If it be a sick and unworthy plant, I shall cast it in the fire, so as to not infect others with it's nastiness.
Please, tell me dear, beloved brugie friends!
The yellow lines that are crooked are leaf minors. I've got them in some of my other plants outside and they don't seem to hurt anything. The rest of it, someone else will have to look at and give you an answer.
well, I know you don't want to hear this, but it could be a virus. It could also be damage from insects or sprays, or even a nutrient defficiency. Here is a picture of tobacco mosaic which this looks like
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Oh Cala, that picture is a nasty looking thing. I hope that isn't what she has in her brugs, but.........
Welllll, could be...but how could it have gotten it? I don't smoke or go frolicking through tobacco fields, so how could it have been contaminated?
The yellow lines are only on 2 leaves. I was informed by 2 different sources that they're probably leaf miners. The lumpy stuff; that's got me stumped. It's so nasty!!! I haven't used any insect sprays on it. What could I give it in the way of nutrients if it is deficient?
arrianna, it could have had it when you got it. Many different plants carry tobacco mosaic virus. Go to Google, put in tobacco mosaic and see what you get. You can click on images and get photo search.
Today is a horrible day...I just lost my first brugmansia. I had to throw out poor "Euorpean Hybrid" and was not even able to "reincarnate" the poor soul in compost since it did indeed have Tobacco Mosaic Virus. I'd like to thank Calalilly for the sobering insight. It seems that this nasty virus runs in the Solanaceae family; affecting tomatoes, tobacco, and the like. Sad, horrible day.
arrianna, I feel so bad for you. I know how terrible you must feel. When it's warmer, I'm sure the nice folks here will more than make up for your brug you lost.
That bottom picture looks like what's going on with my 'Cypress Gardens' ... white discoloring like that. They aren't really lines... but more like patches.
So sorry for your loss arrianna. He'll be much happier in brug heaven.
Poppysue, my Cypress Gardens looks [deleted], but no discoloration or light areas at all. Don't know what's wrong with it, but I think it will go to brug heaven tomorrow.
Thats the spirit! I am so happy everyone has finally gotten into the culling spirit. I routinely kill off a few each year. Some years more than others though. This year was a hum dinger of a killing spree as I killed off more named hybrids than Carter has liver pills.
Hi,
Sorry to hear about your loss, Arrianna. The leaves had symptoms resembling those found in plants carrying tobacco mosaik virus or cucumber mosaik virus. The lower picture show damage of the veins in the early stage and the more severe stage in the photo at the top.
It is difficult to find out, where and when I got infected.
In many cases the virus particles are lying dormant within the plant cells and wait on the plant to get weak and that is when the infection starts to show visible signs of leaf defects, wounds on the branches, cribbled flowers etc.
So your plant could have carried the infection before you got it, but it could also have been infected later on or from an aphid sucking on your plant after having visited an infected vegetable in the neightbourhood. It is the strange thing ... it is always hard to tell exactly where and when.
Best thing to do is to take no chances and inform the person you got it from - not to complaint but - to look for signs too, as it - maybe if we are lucky that the infection arised there - will prevent the infection to spread.
The state of MS inspector indicated that any plants found with the tobacco mosaic or other virus needs to be burned. Fire will kill the virus but if it is put in the garbage it has a chance of getting into the soil. Don't know if he is right but it makes sense. No use taking chances.
This is true Bward, my thoughts should have been clearer...we'll have a bonfire tommorrow and rid ourselves of this hideous pollution. Thank You for bringing it up:))
