This message was edited Thursday, Jan 10th 11:58 AM
How poisonous is Datura?
Crimson
All parts of the plant are poisonous but so are many other plants.
I've grown datura for 3-4 years I have a dog and a grandaughter. We have taught her not to eat anything in the yard; the dog has not shown any intrest in eating any plant material.
paul
Most animal know not to eat plants that will make them sick.
I know all parts of the Datura/Brugmansia are poisonous, but I believe it is the SEEDS that are most deadly. Can anyone confirm this? John
Datura & brugs have a nasty bitter taste. It's doubtful that child would eat enough to do any harm. & The same goes for pets. If you plant them in an area out of the way you should be fine. Seeds are toxic too so be careful with them also.
I agree with you Paul
Hi Crimson, nice to meet you :)
I have had my dogs running in my tail *lol* for 12 years or so in my Datura field and none of them ever ate a bit of a leaf.
Terry, the dog I have right now, like to play "catch a mouse" with immature seedpods of D. stramonium (he is not interested i the opened pods fortunatedly) and sees them as a kind of "heavily armed mouses", that you have to attack with a plan of strategy *lol*
Bruno also played in the field from he was five years old. His Action-men lived either in the stramonium or under the wrightii`s. He builded roads under my Dats and Brugs too with an ice-stick and had his matchbox-cars running all over the place. It never once crossed his mind to eat of them. Both children and dogs find the smell awfull and distastefull.
If you ask for lethal doses, no one will reach these by accident. It takes a deliberate willed action to eat up to ten or more large leaves or 1½ - 2 Datura seedpods of this ill-smelling stuff ...
Sorry, if I sound like I am taking this very easy ... I don`t, and what I say is my experiende (with the dogs and children, not the 1½ seedpods *lol* ). Its is not the golden rule *lol*
The point is, that my dogs, cats and also children generally find Brug and Datura plants ill-smelling and do not bother to stuff them i the mouth ... if you have ever tried to serve a dinner-plate for your teenage son or daughter, that they don`t particur like, you will know, what I meant :)
btw. Cheers and Happy New Year all *lol*
This message was edited Monday, Dec 31st 8:05 PM
The first year I grew Datura, I had water in a saucer under them that had drained out. My little miniature dachshund drank some of the water and threw up for 3 days. I still have them around but tell them NO whenever they get close to the water.
troy
Jun 01, 2002
for those that have read "Clan Of The Cave Bear" this is the root she chewed to make the stuff for the shamans.
Troy...its referred to as toloache in the desert SW..the indians used it in religous ceremonies etc. Chewed the tuberous roots for the visions they created..can be deadly if used wrong...
Dr. Holguin informed me, that the dosis of alkaloids is higher in Datura as in Brugmansia, in Brugmansia it differs much from hybrid to hybrid. Big fields were planted in Africa by a Pharma Co only to find out, that the amount of alkaloids was only half of such plants in their native habitat. The fields are gone, they found a new plant in New Zealand with such high contents of alkaloids, even topping our european Atropa belladonna.
The contents of alkaloids in Brugmansia is very low in climates like Europe, but can still be poisonous, when eaten in consumed in larger amounts. The dead youth in Germany ate Ecstasy pills along with the Datura Tea.
I read "clan of the cavebear" and kinda wondered what plant it was.
Do you read the book from Jean Auel?