Are the Hummers able to get nector from these or are they dangerous for them to eat?
Can Humming birds eat Brug. or Datura
i don't think they are interested in them... have had brugs and hummers for two summers
I've seen them on my red ones
I swear I read in the book that the red ones depend on hummingbirds to pollinate them.They have no sent when they bloom so the color is what attracts the hummers
Okay Dokie Thanks.
I know the hummingbird moths love them, but they aren't birds, but if they love them, don't see how they could hurt a bird.
am sure Mother Nature takes care of its own. there are so many hummingbird where i live. so far, i've only seen them suck nectars from herb flowers, buddleia, roses and salvias.i would believe they do know how to distinguish what is best for them.
Humming birds like sanguinea flowers. The flowers have no scent, but opposite to many other brugs, it is dripping with nectar. The nectar is aparently not poisonous for the birds as these feed on it, but I don`t know, if its edible for us "poor" humans *lol* I once drank four large drops of a corolla with no il-leffects whatsoever ... if I could be 100 % sure, that there aren`t any ill-effects of eating immense amounts of it on toasted and buttered bread, I`ll recommend someone to grow them field after field for marmelad ... its really tasty *lol* ... kowever, I will not recommend any of you to follow my example. As said, Ì had no ill-effects, but I`m not sure whether its poisonous or not ... I could be a little more immune after 12 years of picking seeds out of thornapples *lol*
Sis,
Many plants have poisonous parts, including those we routinely use as food. Goes to reason that some poisonous plants have edible parts, but certainly not all.
Yep,tomatoes,peppers,and eggplant are in the same extended family.I still don't intend to eat any brugs.
lot of catepillars eat brugs, i didn't identify all that got on my besides the ugly one that turns into a hummingbird moth, guess they are adapted to the poison as it is supposed to keep predators away, the predators will get sick eating them...
This message was edited Thursday, Dec 27th 8:37 AM
Sis,
Life is grand. Just imagine this-something in one one concentration is atropine used for treating nerve agent poisoning...this is one of the active chemicals in Brugmansia. So-Brugmansia are effectively used as natural biochemical factories as an antidote to poison. One could also note that some cultures drink Brugmansia tea in a religious context. Anything in excess is poison or used the wrong way. I am not advocating one take part in these ceremonies that advoctate using Brugmansia in sacraments such as cimora-just noting some facts. Brugmansia can be highly poisonous and are not to be eaten as a general rule. It is just that so many harp on Brugmansia as being poisonous that the forget to realize that they are no more poisonous than many plants we grow for their flowers and as an added benefit the chemicals inherent in Brugmansia are used as medicines in our culture and others. Your eye doctor even uses Atropine in liquid form to dilate your pupils...as always...I don't advocate self medicating or playing around with this powerful medicine as any medicine in the wrong concentration or wrongfully imployed is generally poisonous.
One should also note that people have died and been hospitalized from eating these leaves, flowers, etc. If you have ever tasted these leaves-you realize that this is no accident. Nasty is not the word to describe the tast as it is much too nice of a word. Books like Carlos Castenada, etc have long glamorized the ritualistic use of these types of plants and if one were to read up on the effects of these plants one would realize that none of the lesser effect nor its stronger effects are desireable.
This message was edited Thursday, Dec 27th 10:42 AM
I once had a discussion of Growing Dats and Brugs with Mr. Duedahl-Andersen, who own Sorø Botanical Nursery. I have had TDCI for three years then.
He had only comtemtp towards Brugs and Dats growers and called us "people, that grows poison".
While he was frowning ower Brug growers I couldn`t help, but to see the comical in the situation, because while he was really angry I noted that his nursery was filled with Diffenbahcia (or whatever they are called) and Moonkshoods, that are far more poisonous than any Brug.
I remember also, that as a child I wanted to bite in anything and one day I put my teeth in a Diffenbachia-leaf - only leaving scarcely detectable toothmarks in the leaf surface - but my throat was burning and I couldn`t bread for several seconds.
The point is, that Brugs and Dats are poisonous, but most of the plants in our flowerbed are, some in lesser and some to a higher degree ... but we love to grow them, because their beautiful flowers, because of their scent or special leaves ad some beauty to our lives.
Sis,I don't think anyone was offended.Sometimes the typed messages don't come across the way we intend.I hope my reply didn't hurt your feelings.It wasn't meant too.
Gone2seed,
Very well said, I don't think anyone was offended either, but you are quite right...the typed word is often not the best as one can not see a smile or such true heartfelt emotions from the written word as well as from the person. Thank you Gone2seed for the clarification.
Sincerely,
Brugmansia
Sis,
I hope I did not upset you (Smiling) I wasn`t advocating for eating Brugs (warm smile). I also restricted the tasting to four drops of nectar. I am experienced and very confident with growing Datura and hope also to become so with Brugmansias, so I knew in advange, that the worse thing, that could happen to me was a slight dryness in the mouth.
The proposal of growing sanguinea fields for marmelad fabrication was a jolly, humouristic, metafor I used, because the nectar was very tasty (laughing friendly). It may be poisonous ... I don`t know for a fact, but I can have have a sample tested for alkaloid contents ... I feel its okay to feel humourous about things, because focusing on the bright things in life makes it a better place to be in and speculative things, that one is too serious or heavy about sometimes get a lift upwards. (Smiling) Itsn`t it, what life also is about?
btw. are there some way of shortcut these paranthesis-smiles to make them quicker? Gone2seed and Brugmansia is right. I have seen these expressive smiley-icons in MS-Messenger. It would be nice, if we also could make use of them here.