Wouldn't it be interesting to get some input from the experienced brug and datura growers on the height that the various brugs and daturas grow to in average to good soil??
Us newbies could then better plan the placements of our brugs and daturas. I am planning growing both brugs and daturas next summer, and have no idea how to determine which varieties to put in back and which to put in front.
Any of you nice people care to share your information in this regards?
Owen
height of various brugs and daturas
i think mine is a mutant, but i have a frosty pink that grew to about 20 feet tall last year (all new growth) and about 10 feet wide. when it was in full bloom last year the smell was so intense i could hardly walk outside.
it was on its way this year, but t.s. allison leveled it. its now about 15 feet tall.
the double white is about 5 feet tall and the cg/jo is about 7 or so. these two seem to umbrella on me. there isnt alot of bushiness at the bottom, but it really flares at the top.
jen
Those are in the ground - right MSJen? I would think that container grown plants would stay much smaller ?? .....
Yes, in a container they do stay smaller---I have a couple of Frosty Pinks that have been in pots for about four years now, and this was the frist year I had to cut them back hard to get them inside. They were both about 7 feet tall by season's end, but too wide to pass thru the door.
Daturas are generally much shorter, around 3 to 4 feet---but I did have some D. stramonium plants reach 8 feet this summer!
Well........did not realize they grew so quickly. Guess I am gonna have to give some of my varieties away and settle on trying to control my favorites....maybe 10 at the most.
Sounds like it will be a losing battle trying to raise tropicals here, without a greenhouse.
May end up with only a couple if I can't control them under my growlights for the next 6 months:) I think Butterfly and Jessie Noel are my favorites for color....so may need to narrow it down to those two.
Shame brugs are a tropical plant. But that's why I have various datura seeds....at least they should grow and bloom here in the north from seed each year:)
Owen
Owen
My JO/CG in one season got 10 feet tall. It's in the ground. I have some Jo/CG in the green house in pots that are at least 10 feet tall and growing with the curve of the top. I have others that I cut back to 3ft. and they are just now starting to bloom again.The Ecuador Pink in pots got about 6-8ft tall and the Frosty Pink only about 4ft. Before I had the green house, I just drug them into the garage in pots, watered sparingly (they went semi dormant) and cut them back in the spring when I drug them out. Mine in the yard have taken several frosts and just last week, finally lost most of their leaves and quit flowering. We had a killing frost. I leave the stems, mulch well with leaves and they will be back in the spring.
Glory
Nov 27, 2001
Owen,
I had a Jessie Noel that was well over 10ft tall when I cut it down in late October and I had planted it from a cutting in the spring. I wouldn't give up on any of them until you have had them growing for a good year and that way you'll know what to expect.
Charles Grimaldi was another one that got 10 plus ft tall and was started from a cutting in the spring.
Forgot to mention these were both grown in the ground.
Try higher elevation species of Brugmansia, arborea, sanguinea, flava, vulcanicola. Those actually die back in the summer here. I would love to grow some of those red type hybrids or even the green varigated forms of sanguinea. Sorry I don't rememeber the exact names.
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Calalily, so what you're saying is (since I too am in zone 7) that this spring I can set out the brugs you sent me (everyone of the cutting rooted!) directly in the ground and then just mulch them really well around frost time? And they'll come back!? (or do you do that w/only a particular variety?)
Brugmansia - is there a name for the green variegated one?
This message was edited Tuesday, Nov 27th 3:24 PM
Shoe
I've only tried it with Jutner Orange last year.I planted 9 plants in the ground, 8 came back in the spring and the last one sprouted about 2 months ago. This year, I put some of all in the ground to see how they survive the winter. Yes, I plant them in the spring, water and fertilize regularly and in the fall mulch them with lots of leaves.
oblambert,I grew several Daturas last year. The white metel ones grew about 4'H x3'W. The Golden Queens and Dbl. purples grew about 3'H x 2'W. I even grew Ballerina Datura that were supposed to be a compact small variety but found they grew about the same size as the Dbl. purple.I would definitely plant the Daturas in front of the Brugs.
Thanks snowhermit.....appreciate the information:)
Owen
Owen, I planted daturas (double purple, white and double yellow in front of zinnias and Bells of ireland thinking they would be like a small bush. Allt he Daturas grew taller than zinnias and Bells of Ireland. I had a patch of Gloriosa Daisy that was about the same height as the daturas. Hope this helps in placing them amongst annuals and perennials.
/Regards Annie
Thanks, OrphanAnnie, lots of newbies will like that info.
A lot depends on the soil, moisture and sunshine.....but all this input gives us a pretty good idea.
Owen