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We're waitin' on Joaquin. It seems too late for a hurricane when it's been completely dry for weeks, but there it is. Batten down the hatches, fill the gas tank, buy some beans and water, and forgive your Professional Paper Person if the weekend newspapers are delayed. Or hey, try greeting them with a fresh baked muffin at 5 am!
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Haha VV, nice.
Interesting development with the latest GFS run. That model is taking it more north and having it rake along the Nova Scotia coast and then out to see. We'll have to see what the next run does with it. I do feel bad for the eastern Bahamas though. It's forecast to strengthen to a Cat 4 and it's not moving very much, just sitting there destroying things.
I copied this from the previous thread to make sure all got these chuckles...to which Seq4 referred
ViburnumValley wrote:Well, I guess all those Weather Models you were ogling turned into quite the harlots, and now they're setting up a serious brothel in the MidAt. I'm thinkin' theme songs and slogans...
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I'm Joaquin on Sunshine - whoa oh...
These Boots are Made for Joaquin
And that's just what I'll do...
I'm Joaquin - yes indeed
And I'm talkin' - about you and me...
Slow Joaquin
Then I'm Joaquin in Memphis
I was Joaquin with my feet ten feet off of Beale
Joaquin in Memphis
But do I really feel the way I feel?
Here's Your Joaquin Papers
Dead Man Joaquin
!!!
Read more: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fr.php?pid=10149453#ixzz3nJgqjCVt
VV - ha ha ha
Just egg me on, will you...
Any BlackByrds around?
Joaquin in rhythm
Moving in sound
Humming to the music
Trying to move on
I'm Joaquin in rhythm
Singing my song
Thinking 'bout my baby
Trying to get home
How 'bout some Aerosmith?
(remember) Joaquin in the sand
(remember) Joaquin hand in hand
(remember) the night was so exciting
(remember) her smile was so inviting
(remember) then she touched my cheek
(remember) with her fingertips
(remember) softly softly we met with a kiss
I'm gettin' all kinds of hurricane vibes...
Thanks for the comic relief, VV!
I was surprised to find 4.5" of rain in my gauge; I didn't think we had that much because it hasn't rained hard (yet). My sump is still dry, though.
I haven't done anything to get ready for a hurricane, so I hope it stays offshore.
too funny..
if the storm gets blown as far as TN, it might be Joaquin in Memphis...
Love it!!!
WOW, the European model does it again!
Euro was the ONLY model that correctly tracked the path of Joaquin from the very beginning. The other models started sending it out to sea yesterday, and only today are they all in agreement with the Euro.
This exact thing happened with the forecast of Hurricane Sandy; the Euro was the initial outlier that correctly predicted a hit to NJ.
For you weather nerds interested reading more about the superiority of the European model: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/upshot/hurricane-joaquin-forecast-european-model-leads-pack-again.html?_r=0
Also, October weather in DC so far: 4 hours with no rain, 2 hours of temps above the 50s, wind average of 15 mph. We're about 20 degrees cooler than average. I had to bring out the heated blanket last night!
I'm just happy that I won't have to water the newly-planted shrubs for a long while, possibly for the rest of the year.
I am disappointed it won't be bringing more rain to us and I'm a little bummed all those down south won't be sharing. Unfortunately for them there might be mudslides and severe flooding. To be fair to the USA though, the GFS model was on board with the Euro in the beginning of the week and changed to a landfall mid week, then back to out to sea.
Seriously, I'm scared for SC.
Seq, I didn't realize your area was getting the short end of the stick again.
The kind of rain we're getting is just perfect -- nice and slow.
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We're not doing too bad. I haven't seen what was on our rain gauge yet but the one near us is showing for .60". We aren't going to get the rain like those south of us. I'm greedy when it comes to rain...Haha
Yikes, you got me scared for SC too, ssg! My parents live near Hilton Head (inland, fortuntately), so I called them just now. They don't seem to be getting much rain, at least not that they've noticed (at their age, you never know....). Is SC supposed to get hammered?
Muddy:
"The National Weather Service in Charleston, S.C., is telling residents to expect anywhere from 9 to 14 inches this weekend, and is using strong language to emphasize the dangerous and life-threatening nature of the event:"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/10/02/historic-rainfall-and-major-flood-event-looms-for-the-southeast-this-weekend/
I hope they stay safe and dry this weekend!
I don't think they're planning to leave their house, so they should be okay. Thanks for the heads-up; I had no idea it was supposed to be that bad.
The rain we're getting here is soaking straight down into the ground; that's the up side of the drought we've had. I don't have any puddles in my backyard yet.
Terrible flooding in Charleston and Norfolk seem to be the big stories on the weather channel. It is down right sunny this morning but there is an 80% chance of rain. I will say this is the most relaxing vacation that Ric and I have had in a very long time.
Can anyone recommend a pound-in garden edger that does a good job?
The zoysia grass has completely invaded my mini rock garden/sedum bed. I had a six-inch wide area that was stone mulched, but it was foolish of me to think that zoysia would be deterred by it. I need something deep, not just wide. Unfortunately most of my sedums have already disappeared underneath the zoysia.
Ouch SSG, I have the same problems with wire grass it invades all my beds. How do you feel about a dug edge. You can make them as deep and wide as you need. You will have to go back from time to time and clean them up but they can look very nice. I have that back plastic with the rolled edge. The grass just grows over it but it does give me an edge to weed back too. My buried RR ties work pretty well but they are big and heavy to get set plus a lot of digging not to mention no curved edge pretty old style. I like the new brick edging we put in but that takes a lot of work as well and it isn't very deep. It has done a pretty good job but I still have some wire grass to pull.
I really like the dug edge. I think it looks the best. But the problem is that zoysia grass is really active when it's hot/humid/gross here, and I can't keep up with the edging when it's so hot out. I end up spending all of my time keeping the containers alive.
I tried brick edging on one of the other beds, but the zoysia just grew over and under it. It's the worst "weed" in my garden. :/
I use this type of edging around my patio beds as well as in area where I needed pound-in edging to redirect water flow in my backyard. It's easy to install and has worked well for both, although my goal is to replace it with something that looks nicer.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Progressive-Global-Enterprises-2-ft-Easy-Edging-21005/100543142
ssg, because you already have some bricks, you could dig a trench so that the bricks are level with the ground, then put sections of scalloped brick edging behind them (photo 1). HD sells it in white as well. I left the scalloped pieces mostly out of the ground because I need them to hold back the mulch, but you could put them lower.
Photo 2: Those green plastic edgers fade very quickly, by the way, becoming more of a dusky blue-green color. These aren't completely faded yet, but I took this photo to show you another advantage of these - you can angle them into the ground at the end of the bed. Granted, they're still just cheap plastic, but they've worked well while I figure out what I really want to do with that bed.
Perhaps you could buy the plastic edging, pound it all or almost all the way into the ground and then put your bricks on top of it or in front of it to hide it?
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The rhizomes creep in between the bricks, so I need something that is one long piece, not in chunks.
And yes, a two-step approach is the way to go -- pound-in edging in addition to something taller to hold back the mulch.
Lowes sells the metal edging that you pound in. It comes in 15 foot lengths and shorter, but it is expensive.
SSG why don't you beat back the zoysia with round up? I don't think it would penetrate whatever barrier you put down if you are applying RU. I have native rock as a boarder to most of our gardens and regularly spray the RU on the outside of the garden so there is a no man's land of nothing where I don't have to weedwack much.
Muddy your pic #1 with the scalloped edge is very much like my brick edging. I use one brick laying flat and the other standing on edge. They are glued together with a cement glue which keeps them from heaving and so far seems to be keeping the grass from growing between the bricks. You can just see the older edging without the blue bottle in the background that was put in last year .
I haven't glued my bricks together because they keep getting moved as I get rid of more square feet of grass!
That is in the side yard (secret garden) we know what we want to do there or have a really good idea of what we want to do.
Seq, that would require so much roundup because I'd have to do every perimeter, and never stop doing it. And I need a *wide* area of dead zoysia since they send rhizomes underground. I don't mind using round up on a one-use application (like killing poison ivy), but not if I have to do it literally forever. I'd prefer a permanent solution.
Holly, that's ingenious! :D Hm, cement glue... I may have to look into that.
It comes in a tube like caulking and you use a caulk gun to apply it. When I get home I can give you the name.
Joaquin? Serious, no doubt. Check out French Riviera. Flooding so bad that cars floated off to sea. Nice, Cannes, waist-high in floodwaters.
Well, South Carolina isn't doing much better. :(
https://twitter.com/TWCAlexWallace/status/650755672460496896
awful. Mark showed me the radar earlier, huge band of rain hammering the state. Well, not exactly a band which passes, but a tongue of rain, a giant oblong mass moving lengthwise, keeping the heavy rain falling in the same area.
Yikes, that's a lot of rain! My parents lucked out - they live near the SC/Georgia border, so they're not getting much rain at all. My sister's in-laws aren't so lucky, though...some of them live in Columbia : - (
SSG, I run around my yard with RU every few weeks during the growing season. Perhaps I just don't have the experience you do with this weed so I lack understanding of your problem.
Gosh Lisa, it never occurred to me that France would be having effects from this same system. Well, maybe not directly the same system, just at the same time.
Zoysia is really tough. Shade is the only thing it doesn't like, it seems. So sorry, ssgardener, it ate your sedums. What kinds? Maybe we have more in the group. You know I have endless Blue Spruce sedum. I just moved a ton of it along the back of my front bed trying to add something to keep dirt and mulch from washing/splashing on the house.
I just did some light reading on this zoysia and it does sound like unpleasant stuff. We all have our battles I guess.
It may be a thug, but a zoysia lawn is so thick and one of the plushest surfaces I've ever found to be walking on in bare feet. I hate going barefoot, but seeing a big patch of zoysia has even me wanting to take my shoes and socks off.
Yes, But it turns brown very early and doesn't look good until spring. I remember years ago that people were tearing out their lawns and replacing it with Zoysia grass.
I am not a grass expert but I think I have a small patch of it in the yard. When we moved in, it was about 2' in diameter, now it's about 4-5' five years later. It turns brown each winter and doesn't grow as fast as the rest of the lawn.
Zoysia is fantastic for walking on barefoot! It really feels like carpet. Seq, that sounds like zoysia. It barely needs any mowing, which DH loves. :)
The zoysia's actually pretty easy to control in party-shade areas, but boy is it a thug in full sun.
Sally, I had a collection of various sedums of different colors (Tricolor, Black Dragon, Ogon, etc.). It really was a cute little sedum bed, but I can't find any pictures of it.
You know what I just noticed while looking for sedum pictures? My heuchera are missing!
I know the ones out front are dying (because I see them everyday), but I didn't realize the ones in the back were also MIA. I know they're considered short-lived perennials, but what the heck happened to my heuchera this year?
