Would appreciate it if someone (are you listening Eric?) who has had experience in the art of brug raising would rate the following brugs for me....#1 being earliest blooming, #19 being latest blooming....without regards to color or size of blossoms. I live in zone 6, and am trying to just raise those that are going to bloom before frost. First frost is about Oct. 1st, and last frost is about May 15th here. I am sure this information would be very useful for all of us northern growers:)
Aurea Pink X Equador Pink (Pink Versicolor Seedling fm. Eric)
Dr D
D X SR
Frosted Velvet
Ecuador Pink
Solid Gold
Butterfly
Double White "species"
Candida Double White
Dr. Seuss
Jutner Orange
H.G.
Jamaica Yellow
Sauvelens White
Charles Grimaldi
Jessie Noel
Versicolor Peach
Frosty Pink
Insignis Pink
Thanks, Owen
Earliest blooming brugs .... for northern growers
Have to get back to you when I have more time, but all of my Brugmansia hybrids bloomed multiple times in the first year from seedlings save 2 of them of which only one was sent out and one is my favorite out of my DxS hybrids. Dr.D even set mature seedpods before it was a year old.
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OK Eric. By the way, what color is that very favorite hybrid of yours? Just wondering:)
Owen
My favorite hybrid from my seedlings is called Amber Rose . Dark Peachy orange with yellow veins. Very clear candida type shape with no space between the corolla and the calyx. Candida/versicolor calyx. Slender, very fragrant. Tip of calyx comes down in a fine point forming a small tear duct like pouch that the morning dew collects in. My favorite from my DxS hybrids-there being only 3 that I liked that bloomed early enough...DxS (M) bloomed the earliest and is a great repeat bloomer, long tendril length colors rangeing from light amber yellow to dark orange-most often creamy yellow at the top and orange inside towards the bottom with a white eye. DxS L is a better orange color-later bloomer, but very large flushes of flowers. DxS R is more candida type in its flower-similar color and just a bit smaller.
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Eric....they all sound great to me. Think the one you sent me was DxS R. I won't try to talk you out of the others, even though I do have money burning a hole in my pocket:)
Owen
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owen, you have 3 of his I don't have yet. oh, desire seems to be burning holes here:)
Butterfly and Candida species are my two favorite for repeat bloomers on your list and early bloomers. I must confess I have not grown Glory's hybrids long enough to claim anything about them or how early they bloomed from seed etc. Whether the above hybrids also bloomed within their first year from seed is another question altogther. Dr.Sues is a very nice repeat bloomer as well, of course Isabella is suberb. My top 3 hybrids to date for speed of bloom and repeat blooms from cuttings...Isabella, Butterfly, Candida species. Color and shape...winner would be butterfly...
Hybrids I have had the best luck so far with creating hybrids in color....Dr.Sues and Ecuador pink. Least luck in color-Frosty pink..although frosty pink has been used to create some very large hybrids, very fertile hybrids, and exceptional early blooming seedlings.
Hybrids or crosses I would most like to see .... Those involving any aurea of course...but lets see-Solid Gold x Versicolor, Ecuador pink x Dr. Sues, Butterfly x aurea gold, Charles Grimaldi x Ecuador pink, Jutner orange x butterfly or aurea gold. Herrenhauser x Culebra,, Jessie Noel,Roseabella,Isabella...I think all of those hybrids would be worth making and all good hybrids to work with regardless of the combination. Of course Herrenhauser x Culebra would most likely put out its best crosses when one crossed those seedlings produced from such a cross to each other. Of course, I want smaller early blooming repeat bloomers in colors prefering a blend to any pure color so what I would use would be drastically different from what another would use. I don't intend to make all of the above crosses either as I simply don't have the time to make them all. I will be using my own hybrids and others though crossed to aurea's mostly and Herenhauser next year. My main emphasise still being smaller faster growing repeat bloomers in color with longer lasting flowers.
Very interesting, Eric. Your main emphasis of faster growing repeat bloomers in color with longer lasting flowers is exactly what I would breed for....but without regards to size of bloom or plant. Our short outside growing season...about 4 months...really limits which varieties are going to do well for me.
Owen
Dr.D will be your favorite from my hybrids then for those traits. Butterfly is another very good early bloomer from cutting, but I can't speak clearly on Charles Grimaldi, or any of Glorys hybrids as I have not grown them that long or at all in regards to Charles Grimaldi. I think Jesse Noel would definitly be a favorite for shape of blooms though in my oppinion irregardless of when that one flowered from seed.
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Owen,
Jessie Noel Brug is a super bloomer....it blooms early here but our weather is a lot different from yours.
Jessie Noel was an early bloomer from seed..like Whiskers which bloomed in less then four months from planting the seed. If I can remember correctly Vicki Harding sent me the seed for Whiskers in the spring and it was blooming by August/Sept. time frame. Old Glory and Biloxi Belle did not bloom as early as Jessie Noel...that is so strange Jessie Noel,Biloxi Belle, Old Glory and Becca Lynn all came from the same seed pod.
Owen, Thanks for posting this question. I'm taking notes as our growing season is extremely short up here.
Brugmansia, would you have a cutting of Butterfly for sale in the spring? I'd pay money for one of those puppies. The flowers on those are just yummy, thought I'd swoon when I saw them for the first time.
Anna_Z,
I hybridize and prefer the aurea hybrids over anything else. I generally only trade aurea hybrids for other aurea hybrids I don't have or aurea hybrids I need more of as it is best not to cut on a hybrid while attempting to set seeds. I would trade a Butterfly cutting for a cutting of another aurea only or a double pink. Of course I would trade a double orange for a double pink as well.
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Glory....thanks for the information. Just goes to show that all seeds from same seedpod give a different plant:) That's what hybridizing is all about I guess....to get as many variations as possible and then save the very best.
Hoping to get a hot pink and a royal blue from a couple of seeds.....that would make my day:) Not gonna hold my breath though:)
Owen