RU gift from fall '!3

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

So sorry I forgot what this is and who gave it to me. At one time I knew what I was to do with it and when. Just noticed it in my storage room and don't know how to find it on the plant files.

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Beverly Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Could it be a crinum lily? I received some at the RU,however, they were potted.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

It sure looks like a crinum, long bulb.

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

I had three things down there. One had marker saying crinum lily, striped, from covenant garden. Another said P&W crinum from rouxcrew. This item had no marker. None of the three look alike. One was potted and small. Another was way tall.

You think they are all crinums? When do I plant them, and how deep? Plant files says full sun. Do you think FS even here?

(Carol) Euless, TX(Zone 8a)

I think the ones I took to the last roundup were small ones and all potted. They would be white with pink stripes. The bulb in your pic looks like a crinum to me. I plant them so that the bulb is well underground and a little of the stalk is sticking out. From looking at your pic, I would suggest planting about half of it in the dirt. You can plant it outside now. They die back in the winter, but will be putting up green in the next month or so. I have them in both afternoon sun and partial shade and they all do great.

(Joy) Hempstead, TX(Zone 8b)

That's crinium is from Kitt. I remember the cut on the side of the bulb. I also remember she had written on one of the straps what one it was, a pink maybe? Marty brought it up with her from Kittriana via me.

Joy

Yes, plant it now. It will grow in partial shade but won't bloom. They love the sun and are able to handle our sun with ease.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

White with pink stripes, like a milk and wine crinum. They like water too, but not swampy. Was funny seeing it after all this time. Dont plant too deep- only about 1/3 of the bulb in the ground, but dont do too well in full winds.

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

Woohoo, thanks for all the help, guys. Now to find a place.

About how tall do they get?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Mine get 5', straps can get easy 10'. You are colder and dryer, so maybe not so tall.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

My crinum bloomed for the first time this past year. It's been in the ground for about 5 years!!!

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Did you take pictures!? I like seeing the different ones.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Crinum "Passalong Pink"

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Houston Heights, TX(Zone 9a)

Wow! Steph, those are worth waiting for! Absolutely gorgeous.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Another WOW! from me. Purrrrty!

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I was going to dig them up for the spring RU last year, but didn't get around to it. I was tired of them taking up space and not doing anything. So glad I kept them! They really are a very soft pink.

Arlington, TX

I bought one from Calloways, planted it near my pond and it made lots of leaves but the flowers were very small. I dug it up and threw it away. It made a lot of flowers they just weren't very showy. What did I do wrong?

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

You threw it away? It might have gotten too much water. However, depending on the variety, they might have been smaller flowers. Mine makes huge and plentiful leaves, but only 1 bloom stalk.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

It depends on the crinum newton. Water- we use the crinums in ditches to hold the sand washing away- their roots will pull them deeper and deeper into the ground until they no longer bloom. Did you buy a crinum? A naked lady? Perhaps a hemerocallis? Their leaves(straps) are always long. If you cut those straps short, the flowers can be affected.

Arlington, TX

No it was a crinum and to me it was just plain, well ugly. Lots of leaves and new bulblets and a good number of small not well shaped pale pink blooms.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Each bloom is a new bulb. So that one did as expected. There are SO many! Blooms where I am can happen 2x a year, but would need to be indoors forced to bloom farther north. Crinums are the 'poor relations' of the hippaestrums, Those blooms are a bit different than the crinum amaryllis family.

Dallas, TX

I said this in some other thread but it applies here. I have the ones that Joy gave me and also one (or 2) from Carol inside in pots. At first I had some of them outside in a bucket of compost, dirt and whatever but forgot that the buckets didn't have drain holes. I realized it when I was walking around my yard and wondering where a putrid smell was coming from. (Either right after rains or early snow.) So I pulled the slimy things out of the bucket, cleaned them up, potted them, and they are taking over my kitchen counter and table and a table I set up in what I guess for now is a sun room. In fact, a couple were still not doing well compared to the others, but when I peeked at them the other day they were definitely getting some growth. Baby straps on those but the others each have 8 - 10 large straps.

I did plant one in the ground last fall. It started to get mushy so I trimmed it and then covered it to protect it from the weather. Not positive but I think it's still alive.

Given the fun weather we've been having in Dallas, I thought I should wait another month or so before I plant the potted ones outside. Seems like y'all are saying 'plant 'em now.' But that was in February before this last round of snow. So should they stay (inside) or should they go (outside)? Opinions, please.

(Carol) Euless, TX(Zone 8a)

Mine stay in the ground all winter. If you're worried about transplant shock, you could wait another week or two, but I really think they would be fine to plant now.

My crinums are 3rd generation pass-alongs from my grandmother down to me. My mother's patch of them was enormous when she passed away. Some of the stalks would reach almost 4 feet tall, and the smell at her back door was heavenly. I dug what I could before the house sold, but the mother plant was too huge to move. So depressing when I drive by her old house - all her gardens are gone now.

Beverly Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

It never pays to drive by a former residence of your own or someone in your family. Just too depressing!!

I am having a lot of fun watching the things that I got at the fall roundup. I have blooms on an iris and Veronica Speedwell (both from Carol), lady in red salvia and Henry Duelberg salvia (both overwintered in the greenhouse) are blooming, and the Beautyberry is leafing out. I think everything that I brought home has made it through the winter. Waiting for the crinums to poke their heads up. Thanks to everyone. I had such a fun day!!

Dallas, TX

If it doesn't rain, and if I can avoid any St. Pat's parades/traffic, and if I actually remember in time, I plan to go to North Haven Gardens tomorrow (Sat.) to hear a talk by Chris Wiesinger who apparently is known as 'The Bulb Hunter'. I know he'll be pushing his book, but I'll be interested in hearing about his bulb hunting experiences (and comparing them to what all of y'all have posted about finding plants and bulbs and pass-alongs, etc.)

And speaking of North Haven Gardens, I noticed that someone there has written an article about crinums and other bulbs such as Rain Lilies, Oxbloods, and Red Spider Lilies. It has some really nice pictures as well. If interested, I 'think' you can link to it from here:

http://nhg.typepad.com/north-haven-gardens/2014/03/heirloom-bulbs-texas-tough-perennials.html

Altho I have no plans to buy any crinums since I was the happy recipient of many crinums at the Fall RU, I'm curious to see what NHG is selling and for how much $$. I'll be glad to report back if anyone is interested in buying something. NHG is maybe 5 miles at best so I can easily make a return trip to act as middleman. Or loyal servant. :D

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

Sounds interesting. Did you learn what you wanted?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

The oxbloods I have yet to collect any of. Good article! Tho he didnt mention tenderness to ice.. and mine quit bloomin if they bury themselves too deep.

(Joy) Hempstead, TX(Zone 8b)

Kitt, are you wanting oxbloods? I thought I gave you a pot of them last time you were here.

I need to plant several of my belladonna lilies that I over wintered in my greenhouse rather than plant last fall. The problem is that they are growing well and I have waited for the weather to stabilize before getting them planted. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Joy

Dallas, TX

I did make it to NHG for the presentation on bulb hunting. And then it did rain. And rain. And rain. (Yea!)

Chris W lives in East TX and had some interesting stories and slides of collecting bulbs in the wild. Also had some great slides of various people's yards and gardens that were filled with masses of rain lilies or oxbloods, etc. Can't say I learned much new but afterwards spent some time talking with a woman about growing crinums. She lives in Euless and I encouraged her to join DG. And I'll prob. wait for Chris' new book to come to a library near me.

Oh. What did he say about tenderness to ice? Hmmm. Seems like he mostly was talking about established bulbs. He did spend some time talking about various types of narcissus and showed a slide where one had been covered by ice. Sorry. Guess if he said much else relating to ice then I must have had a brain freeze.

Looked like the crinums for sale were about $8 for large-ish bulbs. Couldn't tell about the others b/c I guess there was a delay in getting them bagged up and marked. Whatever.

I did end up spending a whole $5 on a really good size pot of Agapanthus. The plants had just arrived and were in excellent condition. Each pot had lots of bulbs so as long as I don't murder them then I think I did good.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Daffs&narcissus, arent crinums and ice doesnt worry them too much.
Joy- I have never gotten in long enough to collect what I wanted last fall.. Workin so hard my belly gettin bigger chuckl. I have the rain lillies and think they are the red ones. Dau gave up on lots of plants this winter. Will be home on my birthday this month, but am over swamped on brain power to plan much past makin Dr happy n H&R richer, sigh.
Will try to slide out, but gotta get those grape vines into dirt...heavens I am so tired already. I am around, not much help, but missing my hands in the dirt seriously.

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