Cyclamen cilicium in Bloom

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

I've been watching the buds poke their heads out of the soil for a couple weeks and we are now getting some blooms. They are very pretty. I can't wait until they mature after a few years and look like a carpet of gorgeous under our Rhododendrons. We got them from Edelweiss Perennials - thought I'd stick that plug in their for those guys as they are great. Enjoy the pics.

I think I incorrectly named the title 'cilicium' when it may actually be 'hererifolium' instead.

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Albany, NY(Zone 5a)

beautiful!!!!! :) i love these so much i need to get some hardy ones

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

My cyclamens are in full gear also.
I have a large clump of cyclamen hederifolium alba #1.
Also a beautiful c graecum ssp candicum, which is new #2.
I bought it from plant delights, which states zone 7, but every other reference state z8,
so I think I'll lift it and overwinter it in the garage.
#3 is c. mirabile.
#4 is c. hederifolium Silver Leaf form.
#5 is c. repandum.
Repandum is a newby, in his 2nd year; just a couple flowers each year so far.
We'll see how he does in the long run.

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Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Very nice :) I really like the Repandum, where did you get it? Do they multiply nicely for you? This is my first experience with these guys so there's a lot I don't know. After the bloom is spent it curls up into a ball, I assume that becomes the seed? Would you give me some info :) ?

Albany, NY(Zone 5a)

i saw the most gorgeous frilly petaled cyclamen at the grocery store, in one of those gift pots... i was so tempted to buy it and try to bring it in and out ouf the house! hahahah it was so lovely, but no scent, are any of yours fragrant?

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

I love how delicate cyclamens look and that they add blooms to the garden this time of year. I always think that because they look so delicate they are hard to grow, but I've heard that they are quite the opposite and are much tougher than they look. Has that been your experience? Beautiful photos...

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Mine have been pretty carefree so far and I'm pretty sure that every one I've planted has sprouted, which is a pretty good percentage, IMO. I was talking to a fellow at a nursery and he said that to make sure the corms were under the soil because squirrels find them a delicacy...I should put a small amount of soil on a couple of mine but I think there isn't much squirrel activity in the garden where they are located.

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

I have had good luck with cyclamen hederifolia and coum.
Since they've worked out so well, I've tried branching out to less common forms.
It's too soon to know about them yet.
I think siting makes all the difference when growing cyclamens.
They like being dry in summer.
My climate is humid/rainy in summer, so I never thought a suitable match.
But if they are planted in an area with tough root competition (such as under a thirsty maple),
then grow great. The maple roots sucks the excess summer moisture from the soil.
So it's a perfect solution for an area otherwise difficult to plant.
Sequoia, I'm not sure where I found repandum.
My winter entertainment is perusing catalogs, so could be from a zillion places. Sorry.
I added a picture of one of the unfurling flower stems - quite cool.

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Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Weerobin: that's what happens to my spent flowers; they curl up on themselves. Does that turn into a new plant then for next season? How do you get them to spread?

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

Frankly, I'm not sure which - I thought the coiled stem was a flowering stem getting ready to unfurl and bloom, but you might be right about it being the spent flower instead. I haven't really paid it that much attention...
My hederifolium and coum clumps appear to expanding nicely, I guess by underground stems, while many of the other species are corms which just appear to sit on top of the ground; I'm not sure if they make offsets or how they spread. I see a few tiny scattered cyclamen leaves popping up here & there, which I presume to be seedlings, but until they grow up a little, I don't know what species is reseeding. Sadly, you have run into the limits of my botanic understanding. I'm sure there are lots of more knowledgable people out there who might come to the rescue.

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Oh well I guess I'll wait and see :)

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

Foliage is coming up like gangbusters about now.
It's so funny seeing the cyclamens bursting into growth as everything else is dying down.

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Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Looking good! I have found myself excited for our annuals to die off so I could see the Cyclamen foliage better :) I planted the Cyclamen around Gallium Odoratum and I keep ripping the latter out so the former has room to grow but it's tough.

Iowa City, IA(Zone 5a)

Weerobin: I haven't tried repandum yet; it has a reputation of being tricky in colder climates, but I've read that you just need to plant it deeper. Have you done that? But, your ground there in St. Louis doesn't really freeze most years, does it? It can freeze 18" down, up here north of you, some years.

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

My repandum is still iffy - not sure if it will make it long-term or not yet.
I haven't planted mine deep at all, so I don't know if it would help with hardiness.
We're not as cold as you guys, but still a definite winter (it was 8 degrees the other night,
a few more inches of snow last night). I guess we're 6a, according to USDA map.
I haven't been able to check status of my cyclamens past couple weeks due to snow cover.

Iowa City, IA(Zone 5a)

It will be interesting to see how it does long term; you're a brave lass with both mirabile and repandum. I agree with you exactly about planting sites for cyclamen; I never did well with them until I started planting them under japanese maples and then some shrubs. Now they (especially coum) are seeding all over the place and the foliage on many is getting over a foot across. I really like purpurascens because of its tendency to hang onto its foliage all year if it's happy. Some of the silver foliage pupurascens are as nice as coums (plus I now have coums blooming in spring, pupurascens in summer, and hederifoliums in fall).

Iowa City, IA(Zone 5a)

OOPS... I should have said "laddie" (as am I); I've not been around here for a couple of years due to being involved with volunteer managing a 40 acre nature preserve, so gardening has been taking a rear seat and I let my DG membership lapse, so I'm out of touch around here; I need to look around so I don't trip over the furniture.. I just signed back up for DG as it's so cold and snowy up here that I'm done with the nature preserve until next year.

zonedenial - I've tried the coums once and they died out but they were planted out in the open so to speak, not directly under shrubs. Your success might tempt me to try them again. What is your soil type and how deep do you plant them?

Iowa City, IA(Zone 5a)

Cindy; I plant them shallowly. Perhaps a half inch underground, but sometimes they sink to an inch under. I think the main thing is loose, well draining soil, avoiding low-lying spots; any hint of standing water, including in the winter, and you've got a rotted tuber. Second, in our hot summers, they need shade, especially in the afternoon. They do like a bit of alkalinity, too (we're underlain by limestone, so no problem there). I think the planting depth thing may be overdone; I really don't obsess over how deep they are planted, within reason. I think a lot of that comes from Great Britain, where the climate allows very shallow planting, with rotting much more of a worry due to wetness. That's just my guess though; anybody else that grows cyclamens in the colder zones of the U.S. think differently? They say purpurascens, and especially repandum should be planted deeper anyway, so it would seem a hint that cyclamens can tolerate being a little deeper. Coums are funny; it seems like you struggle for a couple of years getting them to even grow, then they start seeding all over the place.Here's a picture of a typical patch of little coum seedlings. They even seed out into our woods a bit.


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Those seedlings are sweet. I might have previously chosen a spot too exposed with pretty fine soil (I have fine silt on top of tan clay if I don't amend it). I have all oak trees so I'm not sure how alkaline my soil is. However, I think they'll go on my 2014 wish list to try again. Thanks for your input as I figured our climates might be pretty similar.

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

I've had no luck with any Cyclamen, but I'd really love to grow them. Sigh.

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

Happy, I didn't have luck either at first.
Until I quit coddling them and planted them in the shade of a maple tree.
Roots from the tree were so dense,
I had to cut out a planting hole, rather than use a trowel.
They have thrived there ever since. I think they hate summer moisture.
So the tree root competition is actually good for them by keeping them dry
during the summer when they're dormant.
If you've got a shady spot with root competition that you'd given up on,
give them another try!

Interesting about the root competition. Have spot in the front yard under two oaks and a maple that I had planted with hostas, epimediums and woodland phlox about 11 years ago. The hostas and epimediums are declining, getting smaller every year. Maybe the cyclamen would be worth a try.

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Of course I do have lots of spots just like that, so I'll try again the next time I see Cyclamen for a cheap price (LOL).

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Check out edelweissperennials.com for the cyclamen. I got all of mine there and they've done wonderfully so far. They made it through their first season quite successfully and are going strong so far this winter. I'm looking forward to their spring blooms. They also have quite the epimedium selection.

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks. I'll probably look locally -- the shipping costs kill me! They are totally reasonable, but they add up to soooo much!

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Alright, good luck!

Thanks for the info on Edelweiss, Sequoia. Have a little Christmas money still to spend and I had focused on Epimediums. Hmm, maybe both...

Lake Stevens, WA(Zone 8a)

I got some Epimedium pinnatum ssp colchicum,, E. x warleyense, Geranium phaeum 'Lily Lovell', Iris cristata 'Abbey's Vilet' from Edelweiss last year for a dry shade garden. The owner seems very knowledgeable, and sent really nice plants. So far they are doing fine... I chose that Iris because the website says it does well in dry shade. Of course they are in Oregon so the humidity of the east would be different. They also sent me a free Gentian that is doing great in a sunny spot with occasional watering. They have bare root specials that are cheaper to ship this time of year, and many thing were cheaper by the half dozen-the epimedium were particularly inexpensive that way.

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Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Wow, that Gentian is gorgeous! Yeah I've spoken with the owner a couple times in email, I believe his name is Urs, and he was friendly and very knowledgeable.

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