is this with my hen?? She is in a new pen with about 10 babies ranging from 1 week to 3 weeks old
Has she been bittem by something or is it a illness?? I put in some Antibiotic water and put some terramycain eye ointment on both eyes
What on Earth
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pic 3 her whole face is swollen
hmmm Fowl pox maybe??? http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/204801.htm
Guess I will have to vaccinate everyone so it doesn't spread. I hate mosquito's!!!!!
I wouldn't put ointment on that.. it's going to spread.. Just let it run it's course.. That is classic pox. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this..
I learned the hard way not to use ointment.. It makes it spread worse.. :(
It's probably too late to vaccinate.. :(
I might have spoken too soon.. The cases that we have experienced here have never been very severe.. but others have had really bad outbreaks of "wet" pox that is very serious. I automatically spoke from my own experience, and I might have been out of line.
I do know that putting the ointment makes it spread terrible.
The pox is usually only on the eyelids and around the eyes, not the eyeball... so it looks terrible, but should heal if it can dry up.
I wish you the best.. and I hope it's just the "dry" pox.
she doesn't sounds any different, no wheezing or sounding gurgled like she has a cold so let hope it is just the dry.
One the articles I was reading about it said you could vaccinate the rest of you flock if they had no symptoms or less than 20% of your flock before it spreads to bad.
Have no idea how I will give it to so many and keep up with who has been does and who hasn't on the Araucana
There is no question that that is pox, and as ZZ's stated if it's dry pox you can't do much except let it run it's course. One thing you might try is a small carefully placed medicated baby powder to dry it up quicker. I have never had a any chickens with pox but have seen it many times and I do remember someone trying baby powder to dry it up, but I can't remember if it helped or not...Hay
There is definitely sings of pox but the pox probably brought down the birds resistance and she is now suffering from Mycoplasmosis. Mycoplasmosis was the secondary infection that has become her worst problem. Mycoplasmosis is often followed by E-coli. E-coli is seldom a real problem. Take care of the Mycoplasmosis and the other problems will go away. `You already know my method of treating Mycoplasmosis.
ooooh Donna so sorry! Hopefully it will run its course quickly!
I seriously doubt the bird now has Mycoplasmosis. Those are classic pox lesions.. I'd let them dry up before treating the bird for something else. Kenboy, I know you are an expert with exotic birds, but I seriously doubt this bird has had time to contract Mycoplasmosis. I respect that you've had good results treating it too. Pox will present with lesions that will close both eyes with swelling, that just means the bird got lesions on the eyelids and surrounding tissue.. One thing at a time..LOL
Donna, I sure wish I could help you... doggone it... sometimes when it rains it pours.. chickens can be so hard to keep sometimes!
How is your chicken doing?
they are all on Tylan Antibiotic water. The hen, both her eyes are closed as of yesterday. Guess I will have to put her down. 1 of the babies has a bump at top of beak near the eyes. Probably best to just put them all down and hopefully avoid it spreading to the rest of my flock as they are reasonably isolated from the rest in a small dbl decker pen up off the ground. I have the floor hole covered so they are in the top half but it is against my Silver Ameraucana pen which I just got in Jan or Feb.
Will Oxine kill the virus in the cage or is my brand new rat proof(all1/2" mesh) cage history??
I am so not into having to deal with this right now or wonder that it will run through my entire flock especially since some of the babies (13) are 2 pens away with 2 other hens in the old Silkie pen
Donna- I would hate for you to have to put down all those birds if it will clear up eventually...
Here is what I found on it --> http://www.backyardchickens.com/LC-diseases-AvianPox.html
I am by far the least experienced here, but I would at least give them a little time to see how they do....
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2 more babies have it today
Donna, we have had it here, and it just runs it's course and goes away.. they look awful, but as long as it is dry pox it should be okay. Of course the ones that can't see are in a bad way if you are not able to go make sure they can eat.. but putting any of them down is NOT going to stop the spread... I think you are too late for that.
I'm sorry.. :(
well at least they will be immune from it if they live through it from what I read in the article TitRX8 posted
I have not seen the hen eat. She can't see at all
I never lost one to pox.. it's just horribly ugly and they didn't feel great for a while..
In the eyes is different... I'd be a little worried about that one.. Can you hand feed?
only a few chicks came down with it. mom is on the road to recovery and has one eye open. The other one still looks really bad. looks like the chicks may be pecking at it. The chicks that have it are not anywhere as bad as what the mom has
Donna- I'm glad to hear that it looks like they are getting better. Hopefully, the others will leave that one eye alone.
Seems as though it has "peaked" and the worst is behind you.. I hope it's over with soon.
We have a Cochin bantam hen that lost one eye to fowl pox. Hope your hen doesn't lose her eye, but if she does, they get along fine with one.
What is dry vs wet pox?
Dry is when they get the ulcers or sores on their head and comb. Wet pox is when it goes respiratory.
How do you know the difference between wet pox and just a cold?
I have never had to deal with wet pox.. Only heard and read about it.. but I believe there are ulcers inside the mouth and throat..
one of the babies dead today. May be from the heat as i have no way to put a fan in the brooder pen. Finally got a few days of rain but now no breeze and extremely humid with full sunshine. Even all the other chickens are staying under the fans and one looks unwell
Aww, Donna sorry to hear that. This heat has been awful this year.
So sorry. I have had to put a fan on my goat house. A lady here had a kid to die from a heat stroke.
I believe it. All the big pens and the Aviary have oscillating fans going since mid May
I put a small fan on the porch for the dogs.
The schnoxer pup is sick. He ate some grass a week ago that had been sprayed with roundup. He has been passing bloody strands of mucus. He is losing weight. He is a bit lethargic during the heat of the day but perks up when it cools off at night. I am giving him soft food from a pouch, raw eggs and goat milk. He is eating well still. I hope he pulls through. I am not really fond of him but I hate to see anything sick or hurt.
Has been immunized for Parvo? I don't think the grass/herbicide would cause such problems.
Youtube has videos about mycoplasma affecting human beings. Tinier than a virus, it takes a special microscopes to see them. Some of the more knowledgeable, and probably more honest doctors and scientists claim that mycoplasma are the cause of many of these new strange diseases sweeping the land, like MS, lupus, lymes, CFS, fibromyalgia, schleroderma, cancer, arthritis, ALS, Crohns, and more.
Uva ursi, the herb I take for my kidneys is one herb that fights mycoplasma. I have taken uva ursi for twenty years and did not know why it helped me so much, but maybe that is why.
One site says it is being sprayed on us in the chemtrails.
Just thought I'd mention this again, as Kenboy, whom I greatly respect, said the word mycoplasmosis. I guess it is the same type of tiny organism.
CajuninKY. I just did some lookups on Roundup, and I'm with porkpal. The studies I've found indicate it would take a lot more than a single low exposure to cause issues, and it would have been pretty quick. Since he was eating grass, he might have lready been in gastric distress. Has the pup been dewormed? Common worms also fit the symptoms, as does coccidia or giardia. Both are a pretty easy fix, but you'd want to take a fecal sample to be tested. Still, it is "parvo weather". There's not a whole lot you can do for parvo at home, but if you can support hydration keep him eating, and get him on antibiotics to prevent secondary infection, he might pull thru. Or he might be on the recovery road already if he's had symptoms for a week. I fought the cat form last January, and nothing I did seemed to help, they either lived, or didn't.
Good luck with him...
He was wormed a week before he ate the roundup. It was sprayed heavy and mixed strong. My son was killing the weeds on the hillside so DH and I would not have to try and cut them. He runs a landscaping company and gets RU from the plant before it's cut so it's lots stronger than what you buy off the shelf. We never use the stuff but he was determined that his Dad and me would not be cutting on the hillsides before he came back. I don't know how much the dog ate. His pooping is getting less and he is eating better and seems to have a lot more energy. He was jumping and playing with me in the yard. He has not had any vaccinations. I hope my other 2 dogs are not in any danger. They are very healthy at the moment. The guard dog is 4yo and the BC is 13yo. The BC has long since had all his shots and vaccinations. I gave the guard dog his 8 in 1 shot when he was young. Would that cover him?
If it is Parvo the older dogs are not likely to get it. At any rate it sounds as if the pup is on the road to recovery.
I sure hope so.