Can anyone ID this for me please? I grew this from seeds I received in trade labeled aurantia but the leaves do not look like the aurantia. I'm getting excited because it's gonna bloom!
Thanks
Seeds said Aurantia Leaves say not Aurantia
can't wait to see the flower. You should be able to tell if it is when it flowers.
Over in plant identification we're thinking its P. sprucei. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because it's way neater than aurantia!
http://www.brisbaneinsects.com/brisbane_nymphs/images/PWC_8067.jpg
The buds are starting to take on a pinkish hue! Can't wait til it opens!!!
That is not a sprucei bud. I dont know what it is, but its not sprucei.
Bummer .. Still hasn't opened.
It opened!!! You were right Mark .. this is not sprucei - looks like aurantia .. I guess when I was searching, I must have gotten a picture with different looking leaves. Anyway .. I love it.
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Yummi !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey .. the coolest part is that it changes colors! And gets even darker than this!
X - I, too, have aurantia and one of the nicest things about this vine is that the blooms stay open for about a week. During that week they go from a light pink to a dark orangish-red color! This is one of my favorite Passiflora vines. It originated in Australia from what I've been told. :-)
It's also self fertile! The spent ones are making fruit! I love these!
I got fruit from every single bloom on mine! I saw a hummingbird at the flowers on mine, so I think it is possibly a good nectar plant. I also see wasps around the blooms.
I think I'm going to try crossing it to my Cotton Leaf and vice versa .. might be interesting if it takes!
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Go for it, X! That would be an interesting cross if it takes. The Cotton Leaf is also a good fruit/seed producer from what I've seen on the vine from the seeds you shared with me! :-) :-) :-)
The Cotton Leaf's are probably the easiest to grow from seed.
No doubt. I've tried to grow the aurantia from seeds I collected and didn't have any luck. I need to pre-soak it in GA3 probably to get germination.
I've had that same problem with mollisima & morifolia. I'm going to try the peroxide treatment to soften the seedcoat and coffee filters. To tell you the truth, I've not had much luck using GA3 on hard coat seeds - I've tried 200 ppm and 400 ppm nicking the seedcoat and actually injecting it into the seed using a syringe - I'm thinking the coat might have a germination inhibitor and it takes time to leech it out - coffee filters have a wicking property so I'll try that too .. GA3 works really well for me on seeds that don't have a hard coat - especially those with a long germination period. A word of warning though with the GA3, the second you see germination, rinse the seed to remove the GA3 or at least dilute it. Otherwise the seedlings will get very VERY leggy.
X - I have germinated incarnata seeds in the past by just planting them in a pot and set the pot aside. Out of about 15 seeds, 10 germinated. So that is a pretty good rate. I didn't do anything to the seeds, but they did take quite a while to sprout. (I don't remember how long.)
From this link: http://www.easywildflowers.com/quality/pas.incar.htm
I found this information ...
"Passiflora incarnata Passion Flower seeds are slow to germinate, they contain a natural chemical that slows their germination. This chemical is slowly removed by contact will cool damp soil. It is possible to germinate them faster by giving them a pretreatment. I received the following emails from two of my customers describing the successful pretreatment they used.
email from Sandy - "Just a short e-mail to let you know that your Passiflora incarnata passion flower seed, sown Feb 22, is germinating (March 1). Was given a 24 hour soak in 5% ethanol cider (changed twice) on gentle bottom heat. They are now peaking through the medium (20 sown 3 are up) and are under grow lights. Passiflora have a germination inhibitor that is more soluble in alcohol (mimics the natural fermentation of fallen fruit) than water. This info is from a master gardener I spoke to months ago. In a couple of months the little passifloras should be in one gallon containers judging from their vigor"
email from Kristl - "I had never grown Passiflora incarnata before and all the info out there seemed to indicate a warm-cold-warm pattern. Instead I tried treating it with GA-3 (overnight soak). This was about 2 weeks ago. As of yesterday about 80% had germinated." The GA3 Kristl refers to is Gibberellic Acid, a chemical often used to improve germination of seeds that are normally slow/difficult to germinate. "
So, maybe I will try some ethanol cider ... if I can find some ... to soak the seeds in. :-)
Interesting information and I'm glad to see my suspicions about germination inhibitors is right. Makes me feel a little better about the failures.
Ethanol cider is hard apple cider .. shouldn't be too hard to find I would think .. I might try that too.
After mulling things over, it occurred to me why they produce a germination inhibitor .. The seeds get spread by animals eating the fruit so it doesn't want to be germinating inside a digestive system. As the seeds go through the digestive track I'm sure it softens the coat as well.
Very interesting reading, the whole thread. I've never treated mine before, just a good soak in
hormone treated distilled h20 a day or so, no bottom heat. Most all come up, but they take
anywhere from 2 wees to 2 months. This might speed things up a bit. TY