Big tree long growing here, blooms most of year, covered with roundish pods. Can trade anytime.
Maybe previous attempts to post did not work due to size of file? Anyway, this is the species, very shiny and even rank. Last year my Thanksgiving centerpiece featured the blossom mixed with pyracantha berries. Next day I realized ants from the brug had been crawling around as we dined. Guests too polite to scream or even comment.
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oh if I thought I had one little chance that I could grow that, I'd be selling the dog!!!
Keep your dog tiG. Your seedlings will be that someday. Horticult - how do you root your cuttings? In water or soil?
What kind of dog?
No reason you could not grow this. Do you have a greenhouse or solarium?
I root cuttings both ways. I think bigger, fatter cuttings do best in a glass of water, and smaller thinner ones in a pot of sterilized potting soil, heeled in so several nodes are under the soil. Mix can be lightened if too heavy and rot might occur. Sand would work too. I think potting media should be varied depending on temperature, moisture and light. Woody plants are said to root better on increasing light (e.g., springtime), but I do cuttings when convenient. I have found brugs have a high percentage of strikes, compared to many other plants.
I've been starting them in water - and potting them when I see little root nubs. It's worked so far - but I wonder about sanguineas. I've read they're nearly impossible to root. I wonder if your geographic location helps. Maybe it's because your working with hybrids?
Hello
I would definately be interested in a cutting of this one.
Hmm do you have others to trade too? If you do want to trade, I live in Canada. I have quite a few brugs and quite a few are either already rooted and some are just going to be pruned this weekend anyhow.
If you'd like a list email me at gardenpro_ca@yahoo.ca
Thanks Dennis
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Finally someone has revealed the rooting secret. Thanks Horticult. Do you use a rooting hormone?
When I remember, I do use a rooting hormone, especially if in soil. I have sometimes just stuck a big cutting into some damp soil and left it in the shade. For rare and few cuttings, I am much less casual....
I bought a gel form of rooting hormone ("root stimulator")from Lee Valley http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=10564&category=2%2C44713%2C40757&prevSearchPage=garden%2FpageSearchResults%2Easp&pageGroup=1 This can be used too in water.
Here is information I got on Web (a forum member posted the site) http://home.att.net/~perennials/germ.html -- hope the author will not object to my reposting this:
ROOTING THOSE CUTTINGS
Brugmansia is easy to root!
The cuttings can be rooted any time of the year.
I have not found soil rooted cuttings to be any better than water rooted cuttings.
1) The perfect cutting will be woody looking or at the very least have bumps on the green stem. Any piece will root as long as it looks like this.
2) I usually use 4-6 inch pieces but I've rooted inch size to 1 footers. Even longer pieces will root.
I've also rooted pieces almost as big around as my wrist.
3) You can cut above or below the nodes. Preferably "above".
4) Remove all but the newest, new growth leaves.
5) Some people use a rooting hormone. I have not found that it helps.
WATER ROOTING
Stick the cuttings in a glass with several inches of water.
Keep in a warm place out of the sun.
Never let the water get old or real cold. The cuttings will rot.
Water rooting in an airconditioned room can result in the water being to cold.
It's best to keep your cuttings in a shady place outside.
WATER-SOIL ROOTING (My favorite way)
Start the cuttings out in water.
In a few short days you'll see the nubbies (pre-roots) starting to swell. At this point plant the cutting in clean, well drained soil.
Do not use potting soil right out of the bag. Add lots of perlite and/or vermiculite to the soil.
A small 2-4 inch pot will be fine to pot them in.
Don't keep the cuttings too wet. Too much water will kill them.
It's better to keep them too dry than too wet.
Keep your newly potted cutting in a warm place but out of the direct sun.
Dappled shade is fine too.
SOIL ROOTING
Plant your cutting 2-3 inches deep, in clean soil.
Again.... a small pot will work fine.
Keep in a warm place out of the direct sun.
Watch that water!
Any of these methods can take 2-6 weeks.
After the plants have established a reasonable root system, you can bump them up to a 1 gallon pot.
Adjust them to the sun, and don't overwater.
OTHER ROOTING SUCCESSES
Tim Hutson from Texas shares this rooting method:
".....we have had great success rooting our cuttings in sand. We have had full, strong root systems develop in about 17 days. We use regular fill sand that is sold here and water about every 3 to 5 days."
Horticul7,
I too use sand to root most everything...works well.
I am NOT advising this, i have this bulk potting soil from a nursery, put in 1-3 gallon pots under the large oak trees and kind of forget about them... have had good success with this after killing some i would love to have back...
horticult7, i wish we could grow those in florida, they are awesome.
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I think much depends on the humidity where you live. Vermiculite would remain wet and soggy here, near the ocean, so I do not use it. Perlite mixed with sterilized potting soil is great for cuttings in my climate. Or sand for succulents.
Horticult7
Horticult7, Is this a plant that would grow good at a higher elevation and cooler summer temps between 70-80 degrees? I've heard that it likes cooler weather and if this is true I will surely put it on my wish list next spring.
Snowhermit, I don't see why it wouldn't grow well under those conditions, since it comes from cloudforest, etc. But a New Hampshire winter wouldn't do -- I assume you take indoors. Brugs will come back from roots after a frost, but I don't know what would happen in prolonged New England winter.
Horticult7
I have 3 questions. What ph do these brugs like? Do you leave them outside in the winter and do they come back up in the spring? Can I have a cutting of this one?
Beautiful sanguinea Hort, is there a hint of arborea in that hybrid? Sorry, I haven't had the chance to kill many of the sanguinea type. Still working on killing a Roter Vulkan vulcanicola hybrid myself. Not intentionally killing them mind you. The arborea seems to be much more hardy here in Florida though. Tig, I think you have a much better chance of growing this one then I do so why not try. I am still trying after all. Think its just a matter of getting the right genetics going down here.
Horticult7, Yes, I bring them inside in winter and then out to the greenhouse around the end of Feb.when I turn the heat on. When the ground warms up they will be back outside. The FP and JO that I got from Arlene grew very quickly outside this summer.
