Here's somthing I didn't know about JPEG files.

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

I've always saved my pix as JPEG's. I was re-reading one of my books and it said that every time a JPEG file is opened, and then saved again, it looses some of its quality. I did a little research and confirmed this about JPEGs. I never picked up on that tidbit before. TIFF's do not suffer with no image degradation, you can open, and re-save them, as many times as you wish.

I have my 40D set to record images a JPEGS and sRaw. After I transfer the pix to my computer, I use the JPEGs just to see if the pic is worth keeping. If it is, then I develop with RAW. But from now on, all my finished bird pix will be saved as TiFF's.

Just thought I share that with others, who may not know.

Hack

Buffalo, MN(Zone 4a)

Hack, if you use Photoshop or PSE to edit your RAW images (or jpgs), .psd format is also non-lossy and I like it better than .tiff. Also, if you use Lightroom, you can make changes to your jpgs that are non-destructive to the original .jpg file.

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

Thanks, DMurray, that's something else I did not know - .psd format. I do use PSE 8. Is there any particular reason why you like .psd format more than .tiff? "Non-lossy", that's what I was reading about, but I couldn't remember that term.

Hack

Weatherford, TX(Zone 7b)

I heard this was true, but wonder how much it actually affects people in normal use. I don't open a file and save it somewhere else; I copy or move it. And if I'm editing it, then yes, I expect it to lose some 'bits'.

Although having said this, I just tried it. The original and the copy are both 1,359,672 bytes. Doesn't look like it lost any 'bits'. :)

Buffalo, MN(Zone 4a)

I like psd's better because they are smaller than tiff's and I can save layers . The big advantage of using tiff is that psd is Photoshop specific, so if you like to use other programs, tiff might be a better choice-I always use PS or Lightroom, so psd's work well for me:)

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

sherry, I don't know if the loss of quality is expressed in a reduced number of bytes of the saved file.

DMurray, thanks for your reasoning. I use other programs, beside PSE 8, so I probably keep using tiff.s

Hack

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

Well, I've seen that it takes noticeably longer for a tiff bird pic to upload to Dave's Garden, than a jpeg. So, I'm gonna save anything headed for Dave's Garden as a jpeg. In fact, I think that unless you open and close a jpeg a zillion times, one might not even see a difference between tiff and jpeg. files

Hack

Buffalo, MN(Zone 4a)

I didn't know you could even upload a .tiff . . .the file size is lots bigger so I can imagine it does take a lot longer. Maybe you could have both-a jpg for online sharing and a tiff for the archive.

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

What I'm gonna do is shot in RAW, work it up with PSE 8,and when I'm satisfied, save it as a jpeg. It is my understanding that jpegs don't become lossy, unless you save them over and over. Once I'm done I won't ever need to open and then re-save the file, I'll just close it. Then share it online.

Hack

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Quote from TheHackster :
I was re-reading one of my books and it said that every time a JPEG file is opened, and then saved again, it looses some of its quality. [/quote]

Just a bit of clarification - you only lose any quality if you open, edit, and save a JPG file. If you just open it for viewing without making any changes, then you don't lose any quality, it remains exactly the same as before.

[quote="TheHackster"] So, I'm gonna save anything headed for Dave's Garden as a jpeg.


Always remember to 'save as' with a new name, so you keep the original unaltered! (that will happen anyway of course if you're changing the file format)

Resin

Sandusky, OH

Quote from Resin :
Always remember to 'save as' with a new name, so you keep the original unaltered! (that will happen anyway of course if you're changing the file format)

Resin


That's what Ive been doing from the get-go...my originals are still as good as the day I shot them.

Edited to say: I save "every" picture I take in a folder...so I can always go back for an original.


This message was edited Feb 6, 2011 7:27 PM

Columbus, GA(Zone 8a)

It may be a mistake, but I don't save my originals. It just seems like way too much work to keep up with them.

Hack

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