stickers and/or grassburrs???

Lorena, TX

HELP, please. moved to tx 1 and 1/2 yrs. ago. DH is Marine so we lease. i still plant....figure someone else will enjoy if we leave. have searched DG high and low for info on stickers...yard is full....spend many hours pulling up. have asked all over Waco nurseries for answers....all have different of course! sooo.....is there an answer and where do i find it ???? at this point, i don't know where to turn.
many thanks for ANY info....the dogs will love you for it too!

Brady, TX(Zone 8a)

Here's the Aggie info: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/archives/parsons/turf/grassbur.html

Might have to get into this myself as I've found some of the little devils on the soles of my gardening clogs!
Mary

Cleburne, TX(Zone 8a)

I solved grassbur problem by mowing frequently and very low to the ground with grass catcher bag on mower to capture everything cut off. Then put clippings in garbage. It only took one season and almost all grassburs were gone. Ours were in a large area and after doing the above, our "grand neighbor baby" could play there barefooted. But you have to stay after it because just a week or so of letting it grow, especially after rain, and just a few grassburs will top out and, boom, they've re-seeded and you've got them all over again!!

Lorena, TX

thank you for the info!!! will buy next trip to town and mark calendar....sure beats trying to dig each plant.
also read somewhere to use old blankets to drag over yard this time of year...and throw away of course!!! intend to try that and see how many i can get up so they won't sprout. then the pre-emergence in march. any improvement will help!

Lorena, TX

we cross-posted....will lower mower also. one way or another, even if i have to plow up....rather have dirt then stickers!!!

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

I'll just put in a plug for natives, in addition to the A&M turfgrass propaganda... Sandspurs aren't a problem in a well-maintained prairie grass lawn, either. The key point is that they get established in disturbed areas, because they're little wussies and they can't actually compete with other grasses. If you've got a good stand of them going, you'll have to do all the low-mowing etc stuff mentioned above, but once you are winning the battle, counter-intuitively, switch to things like top dressing with compost, as well as seeding or sodding the desired grass. Yeah, it fertilizes the stickers, too, and you'll need to dig out the last little bits, but the other plants will be crowding them out and doing most of your work.

If you have a cordial relationship with the landlord, you might be able to get them to kick in for materials if you supply the labor or some such. Their property will be a lot more desireable to future renters when the yard is playable and walkable.


They do make little dog booties, btw - if you have a breed with deep pads they can really get stuck up in there.

Big Sandy, TX(Zone 8a)

Also, if you can, just before Spring, burn your lawn. That will take care of most of the seeds that are waiting to sprout. I agree on everything everyone else said, good advice. But I am a composter and would compost the clippings.

San Marcos, TX(Zone 8b)

Chickens.
They will eat all the stickers, burrs, weeds, flowers and then some.

Cleburne, TX(Zone 8a)

Quote from kenboy :
But I am a composter and would compost the clippings.


I have three compost bins that are each 8+ feet in diameter, so make a lot of compost. I compost all our clippings now but when we had grassburs, never composted clippings from the area where there was grassburs. I find fresh green St. Augustine clippings to be the best thing going to get my compost bins cooking but I don't want grassburs or "goatheads" (worse than grassburs, IMO) in my compost. I want those rascals off my property!!!

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Glenna, I don't know what "goatheads" are, would you enlighten me me please?

Cleburne, TX(Zone 8a)

Quote from frostweed :
Glenna, I don't know what "goatheads" are, would you enlighten me me please?


They grow close to the ground on runners and have a very hard "sticker" about the size of a raisin, I guess, has probably 3 to 5 of very hard thorns on each that someone long ago started calling a "goathead" in the part of the US I came from. Really hurts bare feet and stick into soft soled shoes like velcro. They really puncture. I have to constantly fight them here on our place in areas of very poor soil. Not a problem where we have grass coverage.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Thank you for the information Glenna.
I think I may have seen those somewhere, but I am not sure, in any case, I hope they stay away from my place.
Josephine.

Cleburne, TX(Zone 8a)

Photo here: http://www.goatheads.com/

Talihina, OK

Just wondering where Glenna comes from as the only place I have ever heard them called goatheads was when I moved to Nevada,the little sandburs are nothing compared to Goatheads which can pucture tires on bicyles and stop a tough dog in his tracks..

Talihina, OK

PS have seen the goatheads in west Texas and western Oklahoma

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

I never had sticker problems till they hitchhiked in with a load of sand I got to build a brick patio. This is the best info I have found applicable to my area as posted above. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/archives/parsons/turf/grassbur.html


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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I looked up Puncture Vine and it is an introduced species that grows practically all over the U.S. and Canada.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=TRTE

Here is some more interesting info and ways to control it;
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74128.html

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Quote from jujubetexas :
Chickens.
They will eat all the stickers, burrs, weeds, flowers and then some.
Then, if you can, burn your lawn and celebrate the demise of your stickers with a big plate of chicken BBQ.

Cleburne, TX(Zone 8a)

Quote from grits74571 :
Just wondering where Glenna comes from as the only place I have ever heard them called goatheads was when I moved to Nevada,the little sandburs are nothing compared to Goatheads which can pucture tires on bicyles and stop a tough dog in his tracks..


Came from eastern New Mexico.

Didn't have goatheads here at our place in Johnson County until about 10 years ago. I assume they were brought in by DH's pickup truck tires because the first place they started was in front of his warehouse in really bad soil. I've tried my best to hoe them up and either burn or put in garbage before they mature but still have quite a few come up in that area each year.

Glenna

Lorena, TX

moved from nw N.M.....spent 38 yrs. fighting goatheads! if you watch close when they get yellow flower buds, stickers will still be soft and when you pull up be sure to get long tap root. old-timers there claimed the heads could lay dormant for 20 yrs. and still sprout!!!

Big Sandy, TX(Zone 8a)

All seeds will decay if composted. I do not have bins just one big pile every year. This one is 45' X 18' This picture was taken much earlier in the Spring and isn't that full yet. It will be 6' high by Spring.

Thumbnail by kenboy
Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

It appears that poor soil is the determining factor in both goats heads and sand burrs or grassburrs.

I have read in the past that the best way to prevent them is to spread spagnum peat moss as a top dressing about a third of an inch thick. Also works to get rid of other weeds like dollarweed.

My crop is wicked in spring and goes away in early summer but it returns with a vengance each spring. Need to treat early and see if I can change that.

Talihina, OK

What I know now is that Round up kills not just the plant but also seeds of most weeds I don't know if it will do in the Goatheads but it works wonders on the sandburs..Drastic plants take drastic measures

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Called em goatheads in NM, West Texas.

Fort Worth, TX

Water is the answer. The grass does not produce seed until it gets dry. Water it a lot all year and next year, no sandspurs or goatsheads. Spectracide's roundup type product did not work for me at all. So I dug and dug, until I learned about water, and tested it. We have a drought now, but I only found about 4 plants last year. I had a full 1/6th acre in my septic field's sandy soil, just solid, when I started.

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Did you notice how old this thread is? I wonder if theta have them under control by now. Lol

Fort Worth, TX

If they tried depriving them of water or used weedkillers probably not. Heck I got out there with a propane torch and a garden hose (to keep things from getting out of hand) in fall 2008. And the seeds didn't burn, so I used a shopvac and picked up the seeds. It slowed them down. The cool thing about a forum is that the information is still out there for the next person with a problem.

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