The good...

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

nice to have a few blooms..I think this is Monster White the tag has faded :( only see the word white~ sigh~

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

oops here is the pic ;}

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

The bad...
This is Wretched Mess..she was loaded with buds and and blooming about a month ago when next door they sprayed weed killer..the over spray really did a lot of damage I lost some but this one is slooowly coming back.

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

The ugly....
this is one grown from seed the leaves are a weird yellow-green.
She get the same care as the rest..MG.. compost...manure..the recipe..foliar feeding..epsom salt.There are 3 more in the same bed all very happy mmmm. any thoughts???

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

here is the growth coming up from the roots..almost white.I pulled it off and it came back so now i just want to see what happens lol!!

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

here are the rest of them in this bed all from seed

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Nassau County, NY(Zone 7a)

Kimmieeeeee she is gorgeous!!

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Hi Clemen!!!! Funny lady : ) We shall see!

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Kim, Do you have a pH meter?

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She get the same care as the rest..MG.. compost...manure..the recipe..foliar feeding..epsom salt.

Any or all of a number of things could be going on. The soil in that spot could be highly acidic or highly alkaline. It's surprising how quickly soil pH can change from one spot to another. Very high or very low pH will keep the plant from taking up the micro-nutrients even if they are present in the soil. For that soil, in that spot, "compost...manure..the recipe..foliar feeding..epsom salt" could be overkill, but you can't tell unless you are able to check the soil's pH. A pH meter can be purchased at most nurseries or ordered on line. It doesn't look like nitrogen deficiency because the entire surface of the leaves are yellowing out. But then again if the soil pH is way off, with all the nitrogen sources you have given it, it could be that the plant can't take up the available nitrogen. Ideally, the soil pH for Brugs should be between 6.5 and 7.0. This allows the plant to maximize nutrient uptake.

If it remains as it is, once it runs out of chlorophyll or if it can't produce any, as is obvious, it will die. If you can't get a pH meter to test the soil around that plant, try digging it out, washing all the old soil off and planting it in a different location. The sooner, the better.

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Nassau County, NY(Zone 7a)

Think positive, that is why I said she is gorgeous, she will come out looking great!!!

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Hi Veronica..
well when i plant them this spring is when i added the aged manure awhile later i used compost as mulch epsom salt about once a month and i spray the leaves twice a week MG once a week. I will try to get a meter today!!! Thanks : )
Clemen it would be cool if it i had a chartreuce (sp) leaved brug lolol!!

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Good looking eedlings.. I love the white one... too bad there isn't the tinyest bit of green so itwould stand a better chance..that's one of the biggest white leafed ones I've seen... usually they don't last so long...
A chartreuce and a white leafed one... together.. maybe alien intervention.....save me a hunk of it.. it might be from my homeland..

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Mmmmmm Gordon this has your name all over it. ;} I will keep ya posted!!!!

Big Sandy, TX(Zone 8a)

I know a lot of builders who, instead of cleaning up the extra mortar, they bury it where you would normally put a flower bed. This bed is very close to a brick wall. If it turns out to be on the alkaline side just around the Brug in question, you may want to lift the plant and check it out. I worked for one of those builders and threw a fit when he did this to a house he was building. He told the laborer to dig holes next to the house and bury the extra mortar and when I found out I had them go back and dig it up. He did not throw a big fit but he was not happy. I tried to explain that it really polluted the soil and the lady of the house had brought over a hundred Iris from MD to Texas, hello she a gardener.

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Well the strange thing is last year I had brugs growing there no prob...I still need to get a meter.I'm sure that lady gardener is glad that you threw a fit!!!

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Ok the whole bed is off for brugs : (...6.0 except where the strange one is it's 5.8. What can i do to improve the area???

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

You can raise the soil's pH by adding dolomite. Here's a link to some information on its use.
http://www.home-garden-soil-improvement.com/lime-gypsum.html
The thing to remember when trying to change the pH: It takes time. It's not a quick fix. Before you amend the soil, you might try digging around to see if you can find the source of the problem.


(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Thanks for the great info Veronica! This bed is against a brick wall and edged with concrete I guess it is leaching into the soil??
I have dug in there before planting...for now I will just let them be and work on the soil when I pull them up this fall.One of the seedlings is making buds : )

Big Sandy, TX(Zone 8a)

Concrete and mortar would raise the pH not lower it. You are acidic but not off the chart. Trying to find the right balance can be mind blowing.

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

yes it is overwhelming but i will do my best!
here is my noid that i think was Monster White..tag faded

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Burnley, United Kingdom

Kim

Everyone has given you great advise above. :-)
But, because nothing would be lost, I would take that 'white' growth and try to root it.
It dosen't look 'sickly' so there is a slight chance it could be a 'sport'? More than likely not, but!
It's worth the effort just in case.

Alan

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

i was thinking that last night!! : )

Big Sandy, TX(Zone 8a)

If it is solid white, no green, it will not make it on it's own, it has now way to feed itself.

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

the deed is done..

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