If I understand this correctly,
1) wazine is used first.
2) Two weeks later use paste (horse) Ivermectin W/ Pyrantel, a pea sized dab put in their mouth
OR
Use pour-on Ivermectin, put .5 cc's on the SKIN of their shoulders.
Does this sound right?
A chicken friend of mine said this has been a really wormy year and this is what she was told to do. We were both wondering if this information was correct. I used the wazine on my Girls two weeks ago. I know the eggs can't be used for two weeks after each treatment.
Deworming - Is this correct?
I don't know, all I've ever used is Piperazine.
This is so confusing! PP can you tell me what parasite Piperazine is used to kill.. is it a broad spec wormer?
I used it for Gape Worm in my chickens but I believe it is effective for many species of worms in several different animals. I have also used it for pigs.
2) Two weeks later use paste (horse) Ivermectin W/ Pyrantel, a pea sized dab put in their mouth
OOP's I misspelled that - it should have read ivermectin w/ PRAZIQUANTEL
Just trying to kill as many kinds of worms as possible.
Porkpal, I'll look up the one you use, thanks!
In 1992 I was working on a peafowl farm and we were going to be hatching peafowl eggs under Game hens. Peafowl and turkeys get a disease called blackhead. There is a one cell parasite that lives in earthworms and then transfers to a worn that is common in birds( can not remember the name right now) but this disease is deadly in peafowl and turkey. Chickens can be carriers of the ameba and not get sick. So keeping peafowl worm free is important. In the old days there was not a lot of information out there on what works and what does not. So I tried some experiments. First I treated one pen with double strength Piperazine and the next day I checked under their perch and did not find any traces of worms. I waited one week and gave them 12 drops of Ivermectin down the throught and the next day found hundreds of round worms under their perch. That told me Piperazine did not work on peafowl and Ivermectin did. I understand Ivermectin can make a cock birds sterile for a few weeks so I always worm before breeding season. I wanted to make sure it was safe for my birds so I gave a Game hen 5cc of Ivermectin, which is enough for a 550 lb. cow. The hen had just started laying and she never missed a day, until she had layed 14 eggs and then she went to setting and hatched all 14 eggs. I never noticed her having any problems the day I wormed whatsoever.
So what do I use, Ivermectin. I try to catch each bird when I am worming young peafowl I breed Java Greens and they are very wild and very strong and someone can get hurt just trying to catch them. I add 1cc of Ivermectin to 1 gal. of water and let them drink until all water is gone. This is in a pen with no more than 6 peafowl and 4 chickens. With more birds you would need to have more water that 1 gal.
Ivermectin was first made for humans, there are parasites in other countries you do not want to get. There is also a goat and sheep wormer that a lot of peafowl breeders use but I do not remember the name. I have never seen the time when Ivermectin did not take care of any worm problem my birds ever had.
I have used Ivermectin in cows and horses and dogs and it has a wide margin of safety. The only worm I know that it does not kill is the tapeworm (hence the Praziquantel). I used Piperazine for the Gape Worm as I was treating only one hen at a time and Merck Manual listed it as safer than most - for the egg consumer. I have never noticed any sign of a worm problem in my flock so I have not treated them generally. I don't want to lose the eggs.
So what do I use, Ivermectin. I try to catch each bird when I am worming young peafowl I breed Java Greens and they are very wild and very strong and someone can get hurt just trying to catch them. I add 1cc of Ivermectin to 1 gal. of water and let them drink until all water is gone. This is in a pen with no more than 6 peafowl and 4 chickens. With more birds you would need to have more water that 1 gal.
Thanks, Kenboy. Which Ivermectin do you use for their water? The injectable or the pour-on?
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Thanks Porkpal. Some of the websites I've read use a very tight schedule from antibiotics to dewormers. It seems like over kill for what will be a flock of less than 20 chickens. I think the dab of Ivermectin w/ praziquantel will work just fine.
I use the 1% injection for cattle. I am not familiar with praziquantel that is in the horse wormer you mentioned in your D-mail. If the chickens are crapping worms everywhere you are doing some good. But because this second batch of chickens you just got also have mites, Ivermectin would be my choice because it does work on external parasites.
Most animals live with worms, some do more damage than otheres. If you think about itthey do eat off the ground. In the Fall I try to worn the day that we have our first freeze, so that it helps to stop the cycle.
Praziquantel is for tapeworms only. If tapes aren't a problem for your chickens you could skip it. They are fairly rare, as I understand it.