My Anyamani has come up with 3 solid green leaves. Has anybody else experienced this w/ this cultivar or others? My other var. plumie is not reverting. Not thrilled w/ this....
Variegated plumies reverting?
Have not had this happen to me, but both my anyamanees died over the winter. Seems the Mayas are hardier...at least for me.
take it out of direct sun and give it filtered light.
not supposed to put verigated in direct sun light ever
Did not know that. That must be why mine was turning less variegated. I thought it was the fert. I will dig it up today and place it in less sun. Thanks
Also if its just waking up give it a bit
the first few sets of leaves dont count :P
malestrom, I have learned that what you said is absolutely correct. first leaves don't count. Kinda like my double hibiscus. The first or two flowers always come out single but the subsequent ones come out double. My other var. plumies have not done this but it must be something that Anyamani does.
I have my var. plumerias in full brutal sun w/ no ill effect. Carol also told me the more sun the betta so pls don't move to shade. Most plants, like Stuttgardt canna, var. banana, need the shade relief, but not var. plumies.
thanks all for your help. I see that my "reverting" wasn't reverting at all. Just a plumie waking up.
This message was edited Jun 19, 2010 8:28 AM
pretty much back to normal. now hurry up and bloom!
My variegated plumies are planted in full sun as well. They do look a little yellowish; I'm not sure that they would look any different if given some shade.
Here's the other one:
I like yours, Nery!
Hiya Clare. My Marble Gold looks exactly like yours, yellow and green. Anyamani is white/green. Then there is Rose Syrup with is green/white/and pink. I don't think it's the sun but rather the actual coloring of the plant itself. And being that you are a very experienced plumie grower, I know it's not diseased.
Yellow variegation is tricky that way and that is why so many people don't like it. It makes them think the plant, any plant, is sick. Take golden crinum, for ex. I adore it but to many it looks like only 10 steps away from certain death.
LOL! You are so right, Nery! Thanks for the compliment;-) I love my Golden Crinums too, but my husband always think they look like they are dying! LOL!
By the way, the crinums that I bought last year with your recommendation are starting to bloom. They are so pretty!
Here's the other one. I forget their names now. I have to go look on that old crinum thread. I think one is JC Harvey and the other is Cecilia-something maybe.
I'll have to take a picure of the variegated crinum that you sent me last year. It is doing great! Lately, I've been going crazy for variegated bananas! LOL!
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Here's another:
Excuse the foot in the picture! LOL!
Yes we all love the verigated Love those bananas be awhile before I can get my hands on those love them but price is going to have to come down a bit before I can endulge lol great photo's I have never seen anyone put crotons in the full sun they here are shade loving plants live and learn!
Clare, I had forgotten about the var. crinum. I went outside to ck my golden and my var. crinums and they're little things. As for the var. banana, too painful a subject.....I will have to enjoy them thru yours.
Hi Dana! That little patch actually gets mostly shade. I think it only gets some sun at certain times of the day. You are right that they do best in full shade.
LOL, Nery. Sorry about that. I actually killed 4 AeAe's so I feel your pain. My variegated crinums are still fairly small too. This is your variegated crinum. It's in full sun and so are all my variegated bananas. They would probably look better with some shade, but they will still grow fine.
Here's the one that Terry sent me:
Here's Kukiat's 'Star Ruby' blooming away. It's amazing that it has so many inflo's on such a little plant. I love it.
The new compact! Looks good!
Hmmm....
I have my variegated plumeria, Ae Ae banana, albo-variegated alocasia macrhorhizza/frydek/etc, variegated brugmansias, everything variegated in either full sun or the brightest next alternative. Always have and always will.
Variegated plants need more good light than all green plants, because their variegated parts don;t photosynthesize and their green parts need more photons to take up the slack.
exactly
I have a couple of Variegated plumeria sweet syrup and maya-3 that develop what looks like leaf burn,the light portion of the leaf seems to be most vulnerable,they are growing under a white polycarbonate roof with very little direct sun, anyone have a clue whats causing this? Maya-3 pictured,thanks in advance
Mike
the brown on your leaves reminds me of a time when I was inconsistent w/ the watering. Lettting it die of thirst, then doing guilt-ridden overwatering. Once I normalized the watering, the older leaves fell but the new ones did not get this. I don't have a specific answer, but in my case, it seemed like watering inconsistently was the issue.
Actually I have another idea about that which might interest you. I think that the reason people in the more Western states say that they cannot put plants like these variegated plumeria and other ones like hoyas, some trops like Anthuriums and philodendrons and that sort of stuff out in full sun or even part sun is probably due more to a lack of adequate humidity, and its not a watering issue or an issue with the real amount of light the plant is getting. I lived in Southern California for about 7 years, and CA as a whole is a very dry state compared to somewhere like Houston/Richmond area, or anywhere in the South east of Texas. Having visited relatives in Arizona many times and also in New Mexico, its pretty much just as dry or drier in those states.
Humidity plays a key role in how much sun a plant can withstand without frying. The average humidity here at my house, every day for weeks now since the end of May, usually ranges between 100% in the pre-dawn hours, to 70-75% or higher for the whole rest of the day! We live in a sauna from the end of April through November and sometimes even into December here. Yesterday, I got up and ran 8 miles at 6:30am, came home, took a shower. Then I worked on my patio, cleaning some stuff, trimming some palms, making a small retaining wall, for about 2 hours, and my clothes were soaked again, like I had jumped into the pool. So, another shower. Condensation forms every day on all my windows, and we have the AC set on 75. The plants can take the heat and intense sun, because the air is so moist.
It a dry environment, the sun, which is probably every bit as intense in AZ and CA, will fry leaves pretty quick.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Gothqueen, that is an excellent explanation! The same goes for orchids. Most of the growers in So. Cal. are within walking distance of the beach, or have climate controled greenhouses.
Thanks for the speedy replies vossner and gothqueen,
The temperature under the patio is 112 with 65% humidity i am only 65 miles from the gulf of California and live in the heavily irrigated Yuma valley so some of our humidity is man made and some is coming from the gulf and the rest is from the Colorado and Gila rivers.The temperatures in the city of Yuma witch is mainly upon a mesa range higher with less humidity.The variegated plumeria that are planted under the patio are watered three times a week controlled with a timer so i don't think water is the problem.I have several v. plumies that have flowered and are in the four to five foot range and look good.Maya-3 and sweet syrup are the only ones i have any isues with,maybe there is just not enough humidity for these guys.
mike
At 112F I'd tend to agree that 65% might not be enough. 112F + 65% humidity according to the heat index calculator online equals over 190F on the 'real feel'. No wonder your plants are not too happy.
yes it does get quite warm here,these two are the only v. plumies i have problems with,maya-2 after weeks of these temperatures or higher,notice no leaf burn,picture from late August of last year
Nice explanation, Goth. Love it.
Mike, your variegated plumies are outstanding!
I thought about it goth, and I believe you're right. Yes, I was guilty of ignoring my plant and yes I was guilty about going to the other extreme and nearly drowning it, but I have been a bad mommy before w/ no ill effects. What was different when it happened to me is that we had a week w/ low humidity and very high temps, unusual for us, since it's usually humid.
I can't wait til next spring to get Maya, sonorat, you've convinced me of it with that lovely pic
I have not around much due to a year that started very, very badly with a family tragedy (well, actually two of them). Add to this extreme time constraints (business, new puppies ((ARRGGHH!!), and having recently gotten back from a much needed 15 day vacation), but I saw this topic and had decided to add my two cents worth:
I have been growing variegated plumerias in the Orlando area for about 4 years. I can tell you that YES the edges have burned on my specimens in full, competey exposed sun--period--providing them with the same exact care I gave all the other 400+ varieties of non-variegated plumerias surrounding them. I have 5 variegated varieties and every one of these does much, much better when I keep them in the greenhouse all year long, where they escape direct rays. The clear, double layer plastic covering filters it enough to stop the damage I experienced with them outside in the full, glaring sun. I kept them watered as well, but they still got the black edges to the leaves and the stems sometimes looked a bit sunburned--even though the other, non-variegated plants around them stayed completely normal looking with no damage. In the greenhouse they do get pretty much a "full sun", but it is diffused a bit--enough to not fry the sensitive leaves. Mine are thriving this way--my Maya, Anyamani, and Rose Syrup are easily over 5 feet tall now and growing even faster this year(they started their lives here as teensy-weensy, little 6" tall plants which I held back from selling due to their miniscule size). All have bloomed except for Rose Syrup, which is a very long, straight, single stalked plant. I figure it will simply have to bloom if it ever wants to branch properly, and, the tip is loking a bit like it is at least considering the possibility. I will post pics as soon as the first flower opens.
Nery, I was sure your plant would be okay. None of mine have ever changed to non-variegated plants and I have large ones from the excact same source yours came from. I am glad your plant has quit misbehaving and straightened up for you. Wait until she blooms--it's really pretty contrasting with the leaves. The flowers themselves are not spectacular, though they are pretty. It's rather the contrast of the flower color against the variegated leaves that gives the "WOW!" factor.
I'm curious to see what other experiences people have had. I'll check back soon--hopefully not too long, though these days it's hard to tell when I am able to respond...... :(
Brad
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Clare,
My Ae Ae is growing in half, filtered sun and LOVES this much better than full. I had a few bananas last year. This year it has has pupped like crazy and is again almost 5 feet tall, even after it freezing back that nasty cold snap we had. Thank God for mulch around the rhizome. here it is last season before the nasty weather.
Hi Brad! It's nice to hear from you. No worries about being an absentee poster. I've been gone quite a bit myself due to being busy with work, home improvement projects, yard maintenance, chicken care, and other stuff. Life just gets very busy for those of us who are not retired, eh? I do think of you from time to time and hope that you are well. I've been remiss about keeping in touch by email with many of my plumeria buddies.
I am sorry to hear about your family tradgedies. I hope your mom and Brian are okay. My subscription to DG is about to expire in two days, and I'm going to let it for good because I just can't keep up with garden chat any longer but feel free to email me anytime:-) It's always nice to hear from you.
It sounds like those are ideal conditions for a variegated plumeria. I noticed that mine that are in full sun do get a little burn around the leaf edge at times. Your AeAe is magnificent!
I currently have a sport on my very old avocado tree that is variegated, and it really burns in full sun. I love it. I'm going to have to find a way to graft it.
you must!
Nery, I'm going to wait until it gets much bigger and then graft some of its branches. That way, if I screw it up and can't get the graft to take, at least I'll still have the original sport still on the tree. It's pretty cool looking. The new leaves are a pretty red at first. I also have a variegated Monstera that I'm excited about.
Clare,
Email/Dmail me as soon as you are able. We need to get caught up. A lot has happened----sadly not all good, but I would like to talk to you. It's been too long.
Brad