Newbie with 2 'new' Hoya

Let me start by saying I am a plantaholic. At one time I had over a hundred orchids in a 15x30 greenhouse. Most of those are gone now, because I became addicted to cactus & succulents. I seriously doubt Hoya will take the place of my C&S but I've had my eye on these at Lowe's for some time and finally succumbed when they went on clearance.

From what I have read in the sticky for this forum, these two Hoya shouldn't be too very difficult to grow. They are both Exotic Angel plants, though, and want to make sure they have a proper ID.

The first one, according to the plant tag is "Hoya carnosa variegata". Second one is "Hoya kentiana".

Thanks for any input you may have.
Sharon

And here is the second one.

Thanks again!

Sharon

Welcome to hoya-land tervherd! Your first hoya is correctly ID'd-it is also called Hoya carnosa krimson princess. Your second one is probably H. wayetti - see this website - http://myhoyas.com/wayetii-min.htm - H. kentiana has similar leaves, but I don't think they'll turn red. Someone more experienced can pop in here and correct me if they like -my H. kentiana is still very small and I can't find any pictures in my online sources - but its in fairly bright light and doesn't have any red on it at all.


Christine

Hi Sharon,

I believe your first plant is actually Hoya carnosa Rubra, a/k/a Krimson Princess, a/k/a Strawberries & Cream: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57702/ with the green edges and cream/pink middle on the leaves.

whereas, The Hoya carnosa Tricolor a/k/a Variegata a/k/a Krimson Queen: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57703/ leaves have green centers and the variegation is on the outside of the leaf.


Here's the Plant Files information for H. kentiana: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57676/

I believe there is debate on whether Hoya kentiana and Hoya wayettii are one and the same but I'm not familiar enough with the Hoya genus to know what's what. I have one of the Exotic Angel plants and it wasn't labeled when I bought it a few years ago. I thought it was kentiana but someone here told me it is wayettii. The leaf edges will turn dark brown when grown in full sun.

The EA tag for the carnosa says high light but make sure it's bright light, no direct sun. Direct sun will fry the foliage of the carnosa's.

LOL, Christine posted while I was still typing! Listen to her, she is an avid Hoya grower and much more experienced than I am with Hoya's!

I need to have Admin. remove my photo's from the H. kentiana listing in Plant Files. This plant when moved to full sun had the leaf edges turn dark brown ... and someone told me it was not kentiana but rather wayettii.

H wayetii will reward you with lots of flowers like this that smell of Caramel.....v. nice

I'm a firm believer that H. kentianna and H. wayetti are two distinctly different plants. I can't back it up scientifically, but there is an obvious difference in leaves. What you have there is "wayetti"

I wish mine would bloom!!
Keeps setting buds and then blasting on me :(

My H. wayetti has its first buds!! Its about time, it's nearly 4 years old. Some of them really make you wait a long time.

Actually Lin is correct, I'd forgotten that 'Krimson Princess' is actually called H. carnosa 'Rubra', not variegeta.

Thanks Lin and 3Gs; it never occurred to me to check DG's PlantFiles ... duh ...

8-)


C.

Sharon ~ welcome to the wonderful world of Hoyas...

Hey, podster.....I DO know I get bored easily. LOL! I love all kinds of plants and although right now my predominate focus is C&S, if I see something that tweaks my fancy, I'll buy it. Right now I have quite a few "house plants" so I figure the Hoya will fit in quite well.

Sharon

Oddly ~ I often find the Hoyas categorized with succulents... not smart enough to know why...

Just an assumption on my part, but "tender" might be the key. The Hoya are evidently more susceptible to temperature fluctions, or other environmental factors.

Sharon

. Some have thick succulent type leaves and can withstand long periods without water, others are much thinner and need more water. It really depends which hoya it is and where its from. The dryer you keep some Hoyas, the more succulent they can become, but some arent succulent at all and will quickly die without water. Some thrive on neglect, whereas others are very fussy about their watering. If you want to keep some Hoyas which are more succulent, you need to know which ones they are

I must have an easier selection of Hoyas. I have not found them difficult thru winter. The H. carnosa ~ Krimson Princess has thrived in cooler temps with a lot of new growth. The second one you posted seems to prefer a warmer, more consistent temperature.

I have found this winter that when kept between 40° and 80° (new GH and I am learning) there is an amazing amount of new growth on most of the Hoyas.

Well that is good to know because it is too darned COLD here and I can't afford to heat the house as much as I'd like. For this whole year so far our temps have been below normal. That said, my succulents (not the cacti, though) have been growing like crazy. Hope the Hoya like it too.

BTW.....would the Hoya like to be outside for the summer? I have lots of trees and could find some nice shady spots for them.

Sharon

Outside is excellent but in shade. Your sun is even more intense than the southern sun so I would say definitely shade for you. Otherwise the leaves will sunburn. Mine stay under a porch roof in summer.

Early morning and late afternoon sun is OK...I would do shade in the middle of the day....

Beautiful Plants......