CLOSED: Two birds in one pic to ID

I had a bunch of starlings and grackles out feeding this morning and saw these birds, which I don't recognize and can't find in my books. They are smaller than a Grackle, about the same size as a Starling. I thought - some form of a Red-winged Blackbird, but couldn't find a pic.

The three on the right have, what looks to be a singe tan wing bar, and then I saw the two on the left, and they have different looking wing bars.

Does anyone know what these two kinds of birds are?

Thanks
Hack

Forgot the pic

Hack

Here's another a pic of the bird with the tan wing bar. I think I see a bit of red above it - Red-winged Blackbird?

Hack

Correct- Red-winged Blackbird.

Thanks, pelle. Any idea about the two on the left?

This message was edited Feb 16, 2010 9:56 AM

The 2 on the left in the Last pic are European Starlings.

pelle, is the same true for the two on the left in the first pic?

Hack

Hack, your first pic is Male and female Red-winged Blackbird's.

Thanks, Burd.