CLOSED: Immature Northern Goshawk?

I've seen many Cooper's and Sharp-Shinned, but this one has a very distinct wide white eyebrow line...

There's a couple things missing to call it a Northern Goshawk. The bars on the tail should have a distinctive zigzag pattern, this one does not. The white spots on the back match with Sharp-shinned, but the tail does not look too square to call it that. I will throw my chips all in on a immature Cooper's. Curious to see the Id myself.

I'll add a few more pics...all of which I've been told are Cooper's...
After I went through all of my pics, that's why I didn't think the initial pic was of a Cooper's...

Here's a positively ID'd immature Cooper's that I took a pic of back in November. It had caught a Mourning Dove alongside our house...


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Here's another...but this one is mature with the reddish eyes...

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and another Immature Cooper's...

All of which are different...

Thanks Burd...
I'll wait to have others express their opinions :)

Sorry I can't help with an ID but it is a beautiful bird.

I was wondering what you have wrapped your shepherd hooks with. It looks like the birds could land on them a lot easier. Thanks!

Dell,

Ace bandage wrap and I secure the ends with duct tape. Since it's so windy here, the birds appreciate it...they don't slide off...especially when it's icy too :)

Thanks SusanLouise... I am going to try it, we get wind and ice here too!

I'd say probably immature Cooper's, too. Gos is HUUUGE - they stand about 60cm high, beak to tail; this bird isn't anything like that size.

Resin

Thanks Resin...ok...

It's just amazing how a Cooper's Hawk has "so many faces"...so to speak...

My field guide states that the N.Goshawk can get as large as some Red-tailed's.